14 hours ago, Antoyne said:

Heather has been unhingely obsessed with Lisa since season 1. It has driven me mad for years.

Very much. Since college even. And now that she's in the in-crowd, of course she wants the crown she was always denied. So that means taking out the Queen...who would be Lisa. When it's really Mary, but Mary would eat her for breakfast so

9 hours ago, Gray Bunny said:

How many years later and Erika is still a "survivor" from the Tom/loss-of-money ordeal, blah blah blah...

Too many. Which is why I hope Amanda gets her and gets her good.

The Garcelle effect. Ratings take a major dip following her departure. It seems like those that vowed to drop it when she walked off are standing on business. I know I am.

49 minutes ago, Cheap21 said:

The Garcelle effect. Ratings take a major dip following her departure. It seems like those that vowed to drop it when she walked off are standing on business. I know I am.

About time and deserved.

1 hour ago, Cheap21 said:

The Garcelle effect. Ratings take a major dip following her departure. It seems like those that vowed to drop it when she walked off are standing on business. I know I am.

I f.ucking love it. Bravo acts like these boring ass hoes are the crown jewel of the network and finally people said NOPE.

6 minutes ago, Antoyne said:

I f.ucking love it. Bravo acts like these boring ass hoes are the crown jewel of the network and finally people said NOPE.

Exactly. For comparison, RHOA's premiere did about 100K more than BH

RHOBH isnt untouchable anymore

2 hours ago, Cheap21 said:

Exactly. For comparison, RHOA's premiere did about 100K more than BH

RHOBH isnt untouchable anymore

And it’s exactly what they deserve. I hope they keep dropping.

7 hours ago, Antoyne said:

I f.ucking love it. Bravo acts like these boring ass hoes are the crown jewel of the network and finally people said NOPE.

They haven't been for years. That Bravo thought so shows their clear bias.

5 minutes ago, Taoboi said:

They haven't been for years. That Bravo thought so shows their clear bias.

Bravo favored BH and let a lot of bad behavior slide. Not just the toxic stuff (puppygate; the bots going after Garcelle's son), but just pure laziness. These women were allowed to hide real scandals with fake SLs. Also, Crystal recently said on her podcast that when it came to Bravocon, one of the BH cast told her (I'm paraphrasing) that the BH cast must keep its distance from the other RHs, because presumably they are the crown jewels. It sounds like something Erika or Rinna would say. They really thought their sh!t didn't stink.

Meanwhile SLC continues to kick ass. I am enjoying it so much! Thoughts coming later.

BH by contrast... that opener was carried entirely by Rachel Zoe, who is a STAR and knows the assignment. When she told Kyle someone tried to set her up with Mo in Aspen "but, of course, I would never," I gasped. Yes, Rachel, let her know she can't be too smug around you.

But apart from THEE Rachel Zoe, nobody else is bringing it. The Garcelle talk infuriated me. These women can't operate without sneering at LVP or Garcelle -- another sign of pure laziness.

Whoever is styling Boz this year...😬

15 hours ago, Taoboi said:

Very much. Since college even. And now that she's in the in-crowd, of course she wants the crown she was always denied. So that means taking out the Queen...who would be Lisa. When it's really Mary, but Mary would eat her for breakfast so

Re: Mary. Exactly. That's the real queen of this franchise, and the fans love her.

5 hours ago, Cat said:

Bravo favored BH and let a lot of bad behavior slide. Not just the toxic stuff (puppygate; the bots going after Garcelle's son), but just pure laziness. These women were allowed to hide real scandals with fake SLs. Also, Crystal recently said on her podcast that when it came to Bravocon, one of the BH cast told her (I'm paraphrasing) that the BH cast must keep its distance from the other RHs, because presumably they are the crown jewels. It sounds like something Erika or Rinna would say. They really thought their sh!t didn't stink.

Meanwhile SLC continues to kick ass. I am enjoying it so much! Thoughts coming later.

BH by contrast... that opener was carried entirely by Rachel Zoe, who is a STAR and knows the assignment. When she told Kyle someone tried to set her up with Mo in Aspen "but, of course, I would never," I gasped. Yes, Rachel, let her know she can't be too smug around you.

But apart from THEE Rachel Zoe, nobody else is bringing it. The Garcelle talk infuriated me. These women can't operate without sneering at LVP or Garcelle -- another sign of pure laziness.

Whoever is styling Boz this year...😬

Ah, so RHOBH thinks they're Y&R circa 1990's heyday.

Perhaps it's because the show is 15 years old now, but the younger franchises Potomac and SLC still have a fresh energy to it by comparison as they air simultaneously. RHOBH seems stale with its same faces (well, same people) doing the same old stuff. Potomac is wisely planning its next era, as more of the OG's are going by the wayside. Salt Lake City might struggle down the line because the pool of talent in that city is small. But RHOBH isn't really evolving anymore.

The Garcelle bashing looks like the mean girls trying to rationalize to themselves (the audience) that everything they did was right and Garcelle's reactions were in the wrong. Well, I'm glad the debut season's numbers were lackluster.

13 hours ago, Antoyne said:

I f.ucking love it. Bravo acts like these boring ass hoes are the crown jewel of the network and finally people said NOPE.

We've all been saying it in this thread for years and years. BH is super boring. This thread is generally flawless in predicting audience reactions and we've all known this day would come. At last!

5 hours ago, Cat said:

Bravo favored BH and let a lot of bad behavior slide. Not just the toxic stuff (puppygate; the bots going after Garcelle's son), but just pure laziness. These women were allowed to hide real scandals with fake SLs. Also, Crystal recently said on her podcast that when it came to Bravocon, one of the BH cast told her (I'm paraphrasing) that the BH cast must keep its distance from the other RHs, because presumably they are the crown jewels. It sounds like something Erika or Rinna would say. They really thought their sh!t didn't stink.

Meanwhile SLC continues to kick ass. I am enjoying it so much! Thoughts coming later.

BH by contrast... that opener was carried entirely by Rachel Zoe, who is a STAR and knows the assignment. When she told Kyle someone tried to set her up with Mo in Aspen "but, of course, I would never," I gasped. Yes, Rachel, let her know she can't be too smug around you.

But apart from THEE Rachel Zoe, nobody else is bringing it. The Garcelle talk infuriated me. These women can't operate without sneering at LVP or Garcelle -- another sign of pure laziness.

Whoever is styling Boz this year...😬

And there is the most glaring issue of all. Production allowed the women to showcase fake storylines in exchange for not covering their real life events. I really think the Morgan Wade thing damaged the show because Kyle's constant evasiveness over it drove audiences away when it became clear that Kyle is not sharing her real life. And likely never has.

2 minutes ago, Gray Bunny said:

Ah, so RHOBH thinks they're Y&R circa 1990's heyday.

Perhaps it's because the show is 15 years old now, but the younger franchises Potomac and SLC still have a fresh energy to it by comparison as they air simultaneously. RHOBH seems stale with its same faces (well, same people) doing the same old stuff. Potomac is wisely planning its next era, as more of the OG's are going by the wayside. Salt Lake City might struggle down the line because the pool of talent in that city is small. But

The Garcelle bashing looks like the mean girls trying to rationalize to themselves (the audience) that everything they did was right and Garcelle's reactions were in the wrong. Well, I'm glad the debut season's numbers were lackluster.

Zing! That's a great line.

BH has never evolved. Their cast has been stale, and been allowed to be stale, for years.

If the producers had any guts, they'd have fired Kyle and Erika, kept Garcelle, and hired two new women.

Love her or loathe her, Dorit is the only one whose showing her life imploding and audiences who didn't like her in the past are now warming to her.

In the woulda coulda shoulda's, I wonder where we'd be if a couple years ago they had ditched Kyle and Erika, brought back LVP and Camille, and those 2, Garcelle, Sutton, and Dorit could've been the solid 5, with Dorit having to grovel to get back into LVP's good graces. Plus, Camille vs. Dorit is always comical.