57 minutes ago, Taoboi said:

I liked Daniel...I mean SC Savannah, too...at least until I found out Season 2 was completely manufactured. Very little of NOLA was that. But they were a friend group first. 

 

I heard. I believed I gave up on that show around the time they introduced Leva. I heard some of the messiness, but THAT was a whole other level. But like you...I feel the same. Otherwise, they would have addressed it. And don't get me started on BELOW DECK franchise BTS mess. 

 

If Kenya wanted to make a case for saying they are singling her out over other shows, she has A LOT to pull from. 

She has decades to pull from. All starting back when Bravo thought it was cute with the Naked Wasted arc on OC. That's when the bottom truly started to fall out and all things were up for grabs. 

8 minutes ago, NothinButAttitude said:

She has decades to pull from. All starting back when Bravo thought it was cute with the Naked Wasted arc on OC. That's when the bottom truly started to fall out and all things were up for grabs. 

Now that I finally saw what Naked Wasted was...oh, that truly is a loaded gun no question.

 

Bravo better not play with her. Cuz Kenya AIN'T Nene.

12 minutes ago, Taoboi said:

Now that I finally saw what Naked Wasted was...oh, that truly is a loaded gun no question.

Bravo better not play with her. Cuz Kenya AIN'T Nene.

Exactly. Kenya is cool and level-headed. Bravo knows that too. I think that's why they haven't put out an official statement yet. I think how they respond will decide what route Kenya takes next. 

But I wouldn't be surprised if Nene, Bethenny, Leah, and the others are reaching out to Kenya to add her to the calvary. Now will Kenya bite? That's the million-dollar question...

4 hours ago, DaytimeFan said:

Agreed! 

 

4 hours ago, Antoyne said:

Kenya has no one to blame but herself. Good riddance.

 

1 hour ago, NothinButAttitude said:

Exactly. Kenya is cool and level-headed. Bravo knows that too. I think that's why they haven't put out an official statement yet. I think how they respond will decide what route Kenya takes next. 

But I wouldn't be surprised if Nene, Bethenny, Leah, and the others are reaching out to Kenya to add her to the calvary. Now will Kenya bite? That's the million-dollar question...

Not even Andy has said anything, and I think he would have on WWHL...not that I watch.

 

And definitely wouldn't count Kenya out yet. After all this is the lady who had more buzz for 3 weeks around her pregnancy than the actual episodes of RHOA Season 11 that was airing at that time. 

13 hours ago, DRW50 said:

With Nene likely not coming back, Kandi gone, Kenya gone, Porsha supposedly not getting to do a lot of the filming that the show had anticipated, they may try to get Phaedra or Sheree again...unless they get truly desperate and Kim Z returns (wasn't that some rumor).

Phaedra is on contract and filming for M2M. She wont be back for more than a guest appearance at best.

Throw the season in the toilet. Any hype I had for it is now officially dead

 

9 hours ago, NothinButAttitude said:

Exactly. Kenya is cool and level-headed. Bravo knows that too. I think that's why they haven't put out an official statement yet. I think how they respond will decide what route Kenya takes next. 

But I wouldn't be surprised if Nene, Bethenny, Leah, and the others are reaching out to Kenya to add her to the calvary. Now will Kenya bite? That's the million-dollar question...

It woud be best for Kenya to pay them dust. She wasnt unrightly fired and I think she knows she has some accountability to take in what happened with her. The thing is the door isnt closed on her and she could still have opportunities in the future.  Joining Bethenny and Nene (who has backpeddled herself) cause would blackball her and she cant afford that. She has a young daughter to feed. Kenya needs to think long term, not simply in the right now

 

I will say Bravo aint ish for protecting Andy who admitted to sexual harassment of an employee yet did nothing to punish him. Of course he's a gay white male and Kenya as a black woman was never going to get that level of protection and grace

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Meanwhile, they kept Jenn Aydin around... I'm more than ready for that one to be shown the door. 

As for RHOA, with all the disappointment already with delayed filming, ho-hum casting decisions, and missing out on the juicy tidbits of Porsha's imploding life, I'm wondering if they end up scrapping it and it becomes another Ultimate Girls Trip 4, never to see the light of day. 

 

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1 hour ago, Cheap21 said:

It woud be best for Kenya to pay them dust. She wasnt unrightly fired and I think she knows she has some accountability to take in what happened with her. The thing is the door isnt closed on her and she could still have opportunities in the future.  Joining Bethenny and Nene (who has backpeddled herself) cause would blackball her and she cant afford that. She has a young daughter to feed. Kenya needs to think long term, not simply in the right now

I will say Bravo aint ish for protecting Andy who admitted to sexual harassment of an employee yet did nothing to punish him. Of course he's a gay white male and Kenya as a black woman was never going to get that level of protection and grace

True. I think Kenya needs to channel Kandi and focus on producing, acting, and directing. TV is about to shift back towards that way anyway. Might as well jump on the bandwagon now. 

And don't get me started on Andy or any man on Bravo that has done heinous stuff and get protected. The list is LONG. *coughs* Tom Sandoval *coughs* 

9 minutes ago, Gray Bunny said:

Meanwhile, they kept Jenn Aydin around... I'm more than ready for that one to be shown the door. 

As for RHOA, with all the disappointment already with delayed filming, ho-hum casting decisions, and missing out on the juicy tidbits of Porsha's imploding life, I'm wondering if they end up scrapping it and it becomes another Ultimate Girls Trip 4, never to see the light of day. 

All my friends are coming for my faves!!! Now you want Jenn Aydin gone?! Lord!!! 🤣😭

That aside, I think they will end up scrapping the season. Porsha isn't able to provide much. The newbies are obviously duds. Cynthia, Shamea, and Drew aren't adding much either. Word on the street (in my Gizelle voice) is they are considering bringing Sheree back but that'll flop as Sheree has never really added much. People need to brace themselves. All these shows are about to end. Especially, Atlanta and NJ. I think the recent rumblings of Lisa and Mary getting low with each other on SLC will probably add SLC to the list too. 

53 minutes ago, NothinButAttitude said:

That aside, I think they will end up scrapping the season. Porsha isn't able to provide much. The newbies are obviously duds. Cynthia, Shamea, and Drew aren't adding much either. Word on the street (in my Gizelle voice) is they are considering bringing Sheree back but that'll flop as Sheree has never really added much. People need to brace themselves. All these shows are about to end. Especially, Atlanta and NJ. I think the recent rumblings of Lisa and Mary getting low with each other on SLC will probably add SLC to the list too. 

Well in that case, as we compare soaps to Housewives, we're about to enter the 2008-2011 era, As The Dominoes Fall... only the strong will survive. 

 

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28 minutes ago, Gray Bunny said:

Well in that case, as we compare soaps to Housewives, we're about to enter the 2008-2011 era, As The Dominoes Fall... only the strong will survive. 

Atlanta and NJ are going to be the first to fall. That obvious.

While OC looks good (trailer-wise), I get this pit in my stomach that the Shannon gang-up is about to be overkill and possibly put them back on the wrong track. Praying I am wrong.

SLC is hit or miss. People are already incensed about Monica not returning. And Lisa leaking stuff to the press about Mary calling her child the r-word makes me think it is going to be toxic and dark. SLC really can't afford to be too dark or it'll suffer the fate of Dallas in their fifth season.

BH is safe for now. I think it depends on the transition this upcoming season. Last season was a dud, but it wasn't too bad. It had good moments. 

Potomac is make or break this season. I think that the firings of Candiace and Robyn scared the women to get back on track. However, I never put too much trust in Ashley and Gizelle as they can't seem to stay away from smut. 

Miami is the best show of the bunch. However, Bravo treats them poorly. And they just are about to start filming when they should've started when Potomac and Atlanta started. I don't put too much hope in them. 

Dubai has potential but much like Miami, I don't see Bravo caring too much about them in the long run. 

NuRHONY has been quiet about what is going on, so we'll have to wait and see how that pans out. 

If I had to bet, I think OC and BH will be the last 2 standing. BH will outlast them all but not for too long. I think once Bravo announces the ends of NJ and ATL (the two shows that have the strongest cultural impacts), the audience will bleed out all over the other shows. 

Bravo will then either shift to Below Deck being the network's main franchise or turn into MTV where they have 3-4 reality shows total and spend the rest of the year showing reruns and old movies. 

@NothinButAttitude Id say NY was the first to fall. Heck Dallas if we want to go a little further back

3 hours ago, NothinButAttitude said:

Bravo will then either shift to Below Deck being the network's main franchise or turn into MTV where they have 3-4 reality shows total and spend the rest of the year showing reruns and old movies. 

Well tbf, BELOW DECK was already shifted to the main franchise years ago...the game show substitute to our HW shows as soaps.

 

And it's already been toxic for years. And for every show that manages to not be toxic or well handled (DOWN UNDER, MED last season, BELOW DECK), there are also problematic (The Bros from BELOW DECK S7, MED Season 5 which led to me stopping watching until this year, and the current ALL STARS 4-que situation with SAILING YACHT which resulted in MED coming back a year earlier than planned) shows. They don't push the show as much as they were since Captain Lee was forced out (and good to see him doing well on other tv shows), but they still push it over their HW shows.

6 hours ago, Cheap21 said:

@NothinButAttitude Id say NY was the first to fall. Heck Dallas if we want to go a little further back

Well would we count DC as the actual first? 

But I was referring to the current batch of shows that are airing. I think ATL and NJ are doomed. 

2 hours ago, Taoboi said:

Well tbf, BELOW DECK was already shifted to the main franchise years ago...the game show substitute to our HW shows as soaps.

 

And it's already been toxic for years. And for every show that manages to not be toxic or well handled (DOWN UNDER, MED last season, BELOW DECK), there are also problematic (The Bros from BELOW DECK S7, MED Season 5 which led to me stopping watching until this year, and the current ALL STARS 4-que situation with SAILING YACHT which resulted in MED coming back a year earlier than planned) shows. They don't push the show as much as they were since Captain Lee was forced out (and good to see him doing well on other tv shows), but they still push it over their HW shows.

See, I've never gotten into Below Deck, so I don't know what is going on in its entirety. I know a little at the most. My mom is obsessed with it, so she is all into it; however, I am not stunned that the show veered into toxicity. After the network stayed pushing Kate Chastain as a face of Bravo, I am sure others felt that using her model would get them into the spotlight too. 

 

SN: Hell has frozen over. Brandi is on Twitter defending Kenya. Now that tells you something...

On 6/26/2024 at 3:48 AM, Taoboi said:

And lest we forget in the case of Whitney on SC...he basically was her boss as the main producer/creator of said show. Even if it was not shown, it's the boss talking about you, creating a toxic work environment. 

 

And yet that show keeps on going versus the better show (SC: NOLA) was cut off at the knees.

 

But let me mind my business.

 

I don't think there is anyway of getting around how despicable (and fireable) this allegation makes Kenya look. Looking at the bare bones accusation (Kenya allegedly blowing pictures of the newbie doing sexually explicit acts and plastering them all over a public event), I'm not sure Kenya has much legal ground to declare unfair dismissal. 

Unfortunately, Kenya is a polarising figure, and many people can already picture her doing something like this. This is a long way from "Kenya Moore Hair Care" marching bands, though.

Moreover, Bravo is in the driver's seat here. They have the footage, and can release that to negotiating legal parties (and drip-feed it to social media). If it is damning, there is no getting around that with "But Whitney on Southern Charm...." We know that certain people get a free pass that other's do not. The Southern Charm cast has always been incredibly problematic, from institutionally-corrupt (and drugged-up) Thomas Ravanel and what he did to Kathryn, to very creepy Whitney, to the good ole southern frat boys now populating the show. Kenya might, legally, score some points on that front. However, in the event of potential litigation, Bravo will work overtime to reduce the story to the allegation itself. And the allegation paints Kenya in a dreadful light.

 

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Well according to Brice Sander, Kenya was cleared of the investigation, but it came at a cost. I assume Bravo decided to cut her salary, so Kenya has now walked away from the show in protest. 

And even her mortal enemy, Brandi Glanville, is coming to her aid and speaking on her behalf. You know if those two are in tandem, something in the house of Bravo is off. Brandi also confirmed what I suspected--Bravo knew beforehand what Kenya had to do b/c a production meeting had to occur for them to set up stuff and get the shots. Even Mariah (of M2M) said the same. 

I think this was a hit job to get rid of Kenya b/c she dared to speak out against production in the Carlos King interview last year.