Then again, SPACESHIPS could land in Genoa City

Don't give Maria ideas!

Exactly.

The Y&R people serve dysfunctionality, craziness, psychoses, neuroses, crimes, vileness... And revel in it.

Sickening.

ICAM.

Don't give Maria ideas!

Alien baby for dmarex's Heather/Vail! They could do a WTD story--Billy or an alien? How could anyone tell?

Alien baby for dmarex's Heather/Vail! They could do a WTD story--Billy or an alien? How could anyone tell?

Or the alien could be Brittney Hodges and she'll say Mark did you miss me.

dysfunctionality, craziness, psychoses, neuroses, crimes, vileness... And revel in it.

Aren't the above attributes definitional of soap opera?

In 1952 (?), on radio, Meta Bauer on GL had a custody battle with her husband, who was concerned that their little boy son was gay (euphemistically referred to as "too soft"). The husband forced the son to take boxing lessons...he did so against his will. Eventually, the little boy hit his head and died.

Meta then up and killed her husband. America voted on the verdict.

That is golden-era radio soap. Let's see what attributes it had:

- dysfunctionality (check)

- craziness, psychoses (check)

- neuroses (check)

- crimes (check)

- vileness (check)

It kept America GLUED to the story

Or the alien could be Brittney Hodges and she'll say Mark did you miss me.

Ugh.

Seacrest out!

Don't give Maria ideas!

They have already landed. Those chipmunks are aliens which only Kevin can see. This is the next big reveal.

Mariella Bollocks strikes me as someone who is into New Age stuff/Dan Brown bull (tarot decks, esoteria, crystals, secret societies, conspiracy theories etc.) so Sylvia Browne's appearance doesn't surprise me one bit. It was bound to happen.

Edited January 27, 201015 yr by Sylph

Alien baby for dmarex's Heather/Vail! They could do a WTD story--Billy or an alien? How could anyone tell?

Oh please.

No more ideas like these. MABs head will explode.

Aren't the above attributes definitional of soap opera?

In 1952 (?), on radio, Meta Bauer on GL had a custody battle with her husband, who was concerned that their little boy son was gay (euphemistically referred to as "too soft"). The husband forced the son to take boxing lessons...he did so against his will. Eventually, the little boy hit his head and died.

Meta then up and killed her husband. America voted on the verdict.

That is golden-era radio soap. Let's see what attributes it had:

- dysfunctionality (check)

- craziness, psychoses (check)

- neuroses (check)

- crimes (check)

- vileness (check)

It kept America GLUED to the story

No. You are equating two very different things. Y&R serves "sensational", "shocking" hollow lurid tales, while the above GL examples was something completely different. It's the type of "craziness" that matters.

Edited January 27, 201015 yr by Sylph

The things people will say to justify horrible writing.

But I do realize that taste differs in people, so everyone is free to watch whatever they want.

Edited January 27, 201015 yr by dmarex

No. You are equating two very different things. Y&R serves "sensational", "shocking" hollow lurid tales, while the above GL examples was something completely different. It's the type of "craziness" that matters.

See, now again we agree!

There were HUGE differences between the Meta story and today's Y&R. First, not ALL of GL was crazy at the time. (Well, it kinda was, in the sense that on a 15-minute show, Meta really owned the show at that time). But the show was more balanced. Second, the craziness was reality based (a plausible, horrific scenario).

But I just wanted to make the point that "crazy", "psychotic", "crime" etc. is not necessarily a problem. It can make for amazing soap.

We agree (I think) that today's Y&R is "sensational", "shocking", "lurid", and we agree that these are bad things because they are done without balance and without long-term repercussions.

Yes, I agree that it can. Just like JamesF said in that thread I posted, soaps desperately need to be grounded in reality. Sure, sometimes an out-there villain can be entertaining, but it is dangerously close to becoming a parody of himself/herself.

So the keyword is motivation.

Alien baby for dmarex's Heather/Vail! They could do a WTD story--Billy or an alien? How could anyone tell?

And it would STILL be better than Bank Robbing Chipmunks!

Maria will have Muhney fix it after he finishes typing the press releases.

+1

And it would STILL be better than Bank Robbing Chipmunks!

Alvin, Simon, and Theodore are suing Y&R writing team for damage done to their reputations. People haven't been able to look at them the same since Kevin's chipmunk fiasco.

Carl Williams disappearance and amnesia was a total rewrite.Then,having bought into it,the whole thing was dropped anyway.

I have no recollection of Carol being a widow.I thought it was just assumed that Skip was offscreen.

I think Leanna,like Chase Benson just vanished.

Another character that got a lot of build up and story was Brittany Norman,George Rawlins niece.I think she disappeared during the whole Who Killed George? saga.

However Leanna would come back for later storylines so I wondered about that. As for Skip, I thought it was mentioned he was killed in an off-screen motorcycle accident.