I know Ellen Wheeler gets tons of criticism for what she did at GL. But she did manage to give the show another year, keeping a lot of people employed for another year also. Had it worked, she would have been hailed as a savior, no?

The point is mute as there was no way that it "could," have worked. The show was gutted before the change to shooting in driveways,and Wheeler did the gutting. I think this whole "Wheeler got another year out of it," is really besides the point. She had three years before that to make GL work and she didnt. When they had a half ass budget, what did she do...she obscured the Bauers, ripped the three other families apart, promoted the Super Duper Coopers as the main and only core family, put all her eggs in the Gush basket, made the Spauldings all insane, had Joanathon eat up tons of air time, split up Jeva for no good reason, and of course, kept Brad Cole employed way past his "use by," date. Wheeler got GL to the point where the major and final budget cut came...so to say she was a savior would be like calling me a savior after I shot someone but called a doctor!

Holly and Ethan on GH didn't bother me. I can't be offended retroactively. If this was 1985 I would be saying "bullshit!!!" but in 2009 I got more important problems than this. I can't find the energy to be offended for my 1985 self, and I wouldn't want to time travel back to inform me of these goings on lest I upset the space-time continuum.

Part of soap operas is what happened in the past affects the present and future. They didn't just gut 1985, they gutted the entire Luke/Laura relationship, which is one of the only reasons anyone could stand Luke in the first place. This story also led to wonderful moments like Luke thinking Helena faking Lucky's death and brainwashing him was hilarious.

Dru Who? When Victoria Rowell quit as The Young and the Restless’ Drucilla in 2007 she went all bat-doodoo and blasted the cast for being racist and not giving her Emmy support. She then spent 2009 desperately campaigning to get her old job back. No surprise here: Rowell’s still waiting for the phone to ring.

Did I miss her so called desperate campaigning?

This story also led to wonderful moments like Luke thinking Helena faking Lucky's death and brainwashing him was hilarious.

UGH.

HAAAAAAAAAAAATE.

Part of soap operas is what happened in the past affects the present and future. They didn't just gut 1985, they gutted the entire Luke/Laura relationship, which is one of the only reasons anyone could stand Luke in the first place. This story also led to wonderful moments like Luke thinking Helena faking Lucky's death and brainwashing him was hilarious.

But what happens in the present doesn't really affect the past except on some theoretical level. If you liked L&L from 1980 to 1985, you still liked them and got yout enjoyment out of them. This just seems so long ago, like the silly Luke/Heather Webber affair. I know Luke and Heather barely shared a scene together throughout their shared time on the show, but I can only get so riled up about this. I know Rick Webber did not cheat on Leslie, it never happened, and yet the show said it did and there is only so much outrage I can muster over these retroactive events from 25 years ago.

Did I miss her so called desperate campaigning?

Didn't she take to Twitter to float this idea to her fans to generate fake buzz? I could swear she did.

But speaking of that Y&R gay shame, wasn;t this the decade where OLTL had a character who topped the Y&R shamefest, and decided that to make sure no one knew he was gay he would become a serial killer? I remember watching that story and enjoying it on one level for being OTT drama, but again, what is with these writers who have characters do the worst things to each other but still manage to sit down at thanksgiving together, just don't be gay!

I'm guessing OLTL gets a break for making up for it.

But what happens in the present doesn't really affect the past except on some theoretical level. If you liked L&L from 1980 to 1985, you still liked them and got yout enjoyment out of them. This just seems so long ago, like the silly Luke/Heather Webber affair. I know Luke and Heather barely shared a scene together throughout their shared time on the show, but I can only get so riled up about this. I know Rick Webber did not cheat on Leslie, it never happened, and yet the show said it did and there is only so much outrage I can muster over these retroactive events from 25 years ago.

If you hear that what you liked turned out to all be a lie, you are likely to be somewhat affected. If you also have the story turn into Luke making a mockery of his son being presumed dead for several years and being brainwashed by your family's archenemy, then you are likely to be even more affected.

I can see where rewriting the past for good present story might work, it has worked -- the Cassadine stuff in 1996 was something of a rewrite. But what was the point of this? All those years trashed just for Ethan and for a weird story that went nowhere.