Male torso flesh pressed together and spooning really did it for me. That's big for any network show, primetime even.

I am just glad it was show like a regular straight couple. ATWT chicken out with Nuke.

It was a lovely scene. Made me very happy. I did well up and had not expected to.

Poor Blair, still having to prop up Todd's failed stories.

Clint and Kim and Bo and Nora were really lovely.

Edited December 30, 200915 yr by Vee

It was a lovely scene. Made me very happy. I did well up and had not expected to.

Poor Blair, still having to prop up Todd's failed stories.

Clint and Kim and Bo and Nora were really lovely.

But KdP did well with what she was given. I thought it very natural that Blair would be the one to really disarm the girl despite Todd being the one to actually take the gun from her hands. Blair was with her during Ross's silly meltdown and I hope they explore more of Blair's bonding with Danielle. It could force Little Miss Alderson to play a more bitchy and jealous Starr - though I know it will mostly be about Tea and Blair, if they even go there.

And yes, Clint and Kim / Bo and Nora have done a good job of holding my attention, especially when Nora (or was it Bo?) said this upcoming year was just going to get harder.

I am just glad it was show like a regular straight couple. ATWT chicken out with Nuke.

I'm just glad someone else here is old enough to understand my gay points of reference.

I am just glad it was show like a regular straight couple. ATWT chicken out with Nuke.

I thought the love scene was done with great taste.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=tHL5htXxqRQ

Here are the Kish scenes from today....Goutman are you watching...LOL...you moron....LOL

I'm sorry but I don't understand why Langston would ever see Ford as more attractive or interesting than Markko. Pouring a bucket over your head in a bad knockoff of Lucky Vanous isn't all that special, and he's even less special when clothed and speaking. Markko is gorgeous and charismatic -- Ford is generic in every way.

I would care more about this Matthew triangle if I felt this was even about Matthew's choice, or if the relationships involved were more developed. Destiny/Matthew may or may not have worked as a couple but we did see them develop as friends. The girl who plays Dani has been poor when given strong dramatic material, her voice is flat and her emotions aren't there, and while she is OK with just bonding with Matthew, that has been an afterthought compared to rushing them together because of some sort of fate, or because she's the new pretty pony who must be worshiped like her mother.

I'm sorry but I don't understand why Langston would ever see Ford as more attractive or interesting than Markko. Pouring a bucket over your head in a bad knockoff of Lucky Vanous isn't all that special, and he's even less special when clothed and speaking. Markko is gorgeous and charismatic -- Ford is generic in every way.

I would care more about this Matthew triangle if I felt this was even about Matthew's choice, or if the relationships involved were more developed. Destiny/Matthew may or may not have worked as a couple but we did see them develop as friends. The girl who plays Dani has been poor when given strong dramatic material, her voice is flat and her emotions aren't there, and while she is OK with just bonding with Matthew, that has been an afterthought compared to rushing them together because of some sort of fate, or because she's the new pretty pony who must be worshiped like her mother.

Is that who Ford is?? I remember those scenes with the pouring of the water...lol...it was hot...lol but I agree in the long run Markko is the guy.

I'm sorry but I don't understand why Langston would ever see Ford as more attractive or interesting than Markko. Pouring a bucket over your head in a bad knockoff of Lucky Vanous isn't all that special, and he's even less special when clothed and speaking. Markko is gorgeous and charismatic -- Ford is generic in every way.

It's acceptable cause his abs & his skin mean that he is entitled to be as smug as he wants!

I would care more about this Matthew triangle if I felt this was even about Matthew's choice, or if the relationships involved were more developed. Destiny/Matthew may or may not have worked as a couple but we did see them develop as friends. The girl who plays Dani has been poor when given strong dramatic material, her voice is flat and her emotions aren't there, and while she is OK with just bonding with Matthew, that has been an afterthought compared to rushing them together because of some sort of fate, or because she's the new pretty pony who must be worshiped like her mother.

It's Tarty level offensive.

It's all about punishing the Black girl for being "uppity" & not knowing her place while TPTB's mandated couple are rewarded for being young & white.

After 40 years the blatant regression is amazing.

Edited December 31, 200915 yr by DeeeDee

When did Rex and Fish become best friends?

Someone sounds awfully bitter because they aren't getting their way.

Trolling.

...How original.

I really want to be pulling for Dsetiny but I can't until they recast her--she had the opportunity to prove her talent today and it completely sucked all the way down to her embarassing run out of the club. Ford coming backlikewise is just WTF--it's useless.

Recasting won't fix the real issue.

Edited December 31, 200915 yr by DeeeDee

It's acceptable cause his abs & his skin mean that he is entitled to be as smug as he wants!

He's just so hard to even remember. If you have to recreate some Diet Coke ad from 15 years ago then you aren't that special.

What I don't get about Dani/Matthew is this reminds me of Starr/Cole -- fate and true love in place of strong chemistry or acting talent. People said KA was too weak of an actress to be given major material, which she was, but at least she grew up on the show and had a following. This new girl can't act and yet she's shoved into major storylines and given a big love interest. Eddie Alderson is a better actor than Brandon Buddy but he can't make up for how desperate I think this story is. Everything with her and her parents comes across that way.

For me it's not even really about Destiny and Matthew, I would be fine if they just stayed friends. It's just this girl who isn't that good of an actress and isn't that likeable of a character being pushed as a big star and upending what was already there.

There are plenty of other weak to bad actors on OLTL so why do the minority ones have to be recast before fans get invested in them?

I appreciate many of your other points but have to disagree here--yeah the showhas somequestionable talent but NONE of the major players sucks so completely at giving any decent line delivery the way she does.