Members SOAPSFOREVER Posted December 15, 2009 Members Share Posted December 15, 2009 "Shameless Emmy grabs"??? If you're going to accuse Bell of this, point the finger at ALL soap EPs and headwriters, starting with JFP and SANTA BARBARA. It was the first soap to write Emmy shows and alter their shooting schedule so they took a number of days to shoot two episodes as opposed to the normal two days. That's why the Emmy process is greatly flawed. But if you think Bell is the only one who does this, think again. You really believe AMC's tornado last year wasn't a "shameless Emmy grab??" Come on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SOAPSFOREVER Posted December 15, 2009 Members Share Posted December 15, 2009 I think Bell wants his family's shows to continue. I think he's looking at the hard realities and trying to come up with a production model that works. So you see the shadow from a mic boom occasionally. Who really cares? The golden era of soaps were riddled with these kinds of production gaffs. It didn't keep people from watching. In some cases it endeared the audience to the shows even more, like DARK SHADOWS. I'd rather have my soaps on the air, with fewer bells and whistles, than worry about reshooting a scene because you can see the shadow from a mic boom. Whatever you think about his show or storytelling, at least Bell is in there fighting, as opposed to P&G that pretty much just stood back and let their soaps go down the drain. Same for Ken Corday. He's probably the most loathed EP in the soap business, but he's still in there fighting to keep his family's soap on the air, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members bellcurve Posted December 15, 2009 Members Share Posted December 15, 2009 Don't be flattered. Replying to your posts is the same as someone picking up trash and sweeping the house. Gotta be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bellcurve Posted December 15, 2009 Members Share Posted December 15, 2009 Everyone loves a special guest appearance from someone on the Bell-Phillip Payroll. The difference between JFP's Emmy Shows and Brad Bell's Emmy Shows is that the former actually wins. And we see what happened to Dark Shadows. Eventually canceled. And you can't even compare something like Dark Shadows to B&B. Dark Shadows was a camp classic that never had a budget, while B&B has always been a show with one. And without a budget, the show looks so sloppy and thrown together. The performances are awful(can we give the actors AT&T cards since they love to phone it in so much) and most of the directing these days is weak as hell. And people ridiculed Wheeler for her cheap sets, even before she changed her production model. Turnabout is, after all, fair play. You are absolutely entitled to not care about boom mics and camera heads and the occasional, accidental shot off camera. But it looks extremely amateurish and unprofessional. Especially when your story is weak as hell. You can't say that Brad shouldn't be immune from this sort of criticism that has been passed to everyone else in the industry. Why? Because he's Brad Bell? I don't see "fighting" from Brad. What I see is more typical figurehead, arrogant nonsense coming out of this interview. Flippantly saying PGP didn't care about their shows. He has one hell of a nerve. While B&B's numbers(no thanks to Y&R) continue to plummet to new record lows each year. DAYS' "return" to traditional storytelling should tell them something. What I mean by rushed is exactly what Michael Logan(and even you, I believe, in another thread so casually wondered) asked Brad in terms of their being little-to-no rehearsal. It's painfully obvious. The actors are more concerned about spitting their lines out instead of worrying about what's on the page. I'm aware the economic reality of daytime no longer allows them the privilege of doing five takes of one scene. But I don't see anyone really jumping in and caring about their performances. At all. Everyone has gotten lazy. Just look at their faces. They're more concerned with beating rush hour traffic than actually caring about the scenes. But then again, who could blame them, given that B&B has an excellent recycling program? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JaneAusten Posted December 15, 2009 Members Share Posted December 15, 2009 I am sure he cares to some extent but honestly I was a bit put off by his comment about P&G. And do you really believe viewers would be patient with cheap production? Really? Look at the beating GL took when Wheeler changed that show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members YRBB Posted December 15, 2009 Members Share Posted December 15, 2009 What a horrible interview--if only for Bell's total ignorance of what is really going on around him! That part about being able to produce the show for even less was especially cringeworthy. And his ridicule of MAD MEN, where all people do is talk... I'm sorry, wasn't that what happened on Y&R all the time? And to a lesser extent B&B? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sylph Posted December 15, 2009 Members Share Posted December 15, 2009 You need to read this (and all the comments): http://www.deadline.com/hollywood/recent-emmy-winning-young-female-writer-loses-her-job-on-mad-men/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members YRBB Posted December 15, 2009 Members Share Posted December 15, 2009 Oh dear Lord, all that drama! Too bad I've got both Seasons on DVD and haven't even been able to make it through the first half of Season 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sheilaforever Posted December 15, 2009 Members Share Posted December 15, 2009 Not through with the entire interview yet, but apparently CBS cut their previous licensing deal for B&B and renogiated better terms. The current cycle was supposed to run until March 2010... ...and last time they got a 5 year year renewal and not just two years. Ouch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JaneAusten Posted December 15, 2009 Members Share Posted December 15, 2009 Was Y&R only renewed for 2 years also? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members soapfan770 Posted December 15, 2009 Members Share Posted December 15, 2009 I should have clarified what I meant about shameless Emmy grabs--I mean bad shameless Emmy grabs. Amber's second dead baby and subsequent pill addiction and so forth come to mind. Brad Bell is the master of pointless twists ie Ridge is Massimo's son. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sylph Posted December 15, 2009 Members Share Posted December 15, 2009 LOL! It didn't hold your interest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SOAPSFOREVER Posted December 15, 2009 Members Share Posted December 15, 2009 I guess we're different shows. I don't feel the actors are phoning it in. Say, like Tony Geary on GH, who totally phones in his work day after day IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members y&r_fan Posted December 16, 2009 Members Share Posted December 16, 2009 I don't either. I think B&B has a stellar cast, apart from a few stinkers (Ronn Moss, Drew Tyler Bell, Texas Battle). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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