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What if GH (or any soap) asked for a "do over"

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The main difference is that was an end to a serial killer story. Of course some people were going to be annoyed that it ended with no real deaths. This would be an end to 5 or 6 years of pointless character death, scattered through lousy, empty story after lousy, empty story.

Would a lot of people tune out if the show brought AJ, Georgie, Justus, etc. back from the dead? I'm not sure if they would. It's not like the show has vastly improved with their absence. Their desperate flailing around of the past few years says it all.

I admit, I don't know GH well enough to know whether or not bringing all of those people back would be a success. I remember being excited when Laura came back from the dead (or maybe she disappeared) way way back in the day (I watched in the late 70s/early 80s) because I really loved her character. So I understand how bringing beloved characters back might be a positive.

But a mass back from the dead like the one on Days, eh, not so much.

I still don't think to this very day that JER planned to bring them back. He was forced too by Corday getting cold feet. But I must say I LOVED SSK up until Marlena was spinning and or falling in mid air and ended up on Fuax Salem. I tuned out as well

I think I also read somewhere that JER had planned to kill those characters off for good but Corday changed his mind. I didn't know whether that was true or not.

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The main difference is that was an end to a serial killer story. Of course some people were going to be annoyed that it ended with no real deaths. This would be an end to 5 or 6 years of pointless character death, scattered through lousy, empty story after lousy, empty story.

Would a lot of people tune out if the show brought AJ, Georgie, Justus, etc. back from the dead? I'm not sure if they would. It's not like the show has vastly improved with their absence. Their desperate flailing around of the past few years says it all.

I have no idea why anyone would tune out if Georgie, AJ, Emily, Alan whoever came back. Why? It's not like their deaths drove lots of story and fallout in the first place. They were all utterly pointless and were only used as ratings ploys and then dropped as if nothing happened. I'd trade most or all of these characters for 4 mob related characters in a a heartbeat. They basically died and were fotgotten so to be throwing them back on canvas would be as eventful as their deaths were which would be not at all. Personally I don't care any longer why GH does. And I never liked the Spencers so JJ back as Lucky had zero impact for me nor would I care if Genie came back at this point.

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I have no idea why anyone would tune out if Georgie, AJ, Emily, Alan whoever came back. Why? It's not like their deaths drove lots of story and fallout in the first place. I'd trade most or all of these characters for 4 mob related characters in a a heartbeat. They basically died and were fotgotten so to be throwing them back on canvas would be as eventful as their deaths were which would be not at all. Personally I don't care any longer why GH does. And I never liked the Spencers so JJ back as Lucky had zero impact for me nor would I care if Genie came back at this point. The Spencers were interesting because of their connections to other parts of the canvas. Those connections are all but gone.

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I used to think that if GH got a new headwriter and EP that it still had the potential to improve. Not any more. I have finally accepted that GH will never improve because this is how ABC likes its soaps. Looking at Days under the same Dena Higley who writing I despised at OLTL has been an eye opener. Days is woman dominated and full of traditional stories. If it isn't Higley getting lucky, then it must be that ABC likes its soaps male dominated and misogynistic. A do over isn't going to change this and what is done is done.

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I used to think that if GH got a new headwriter and EP that it still had the potential to improve. Not any more. I have finally accepted that GH will never improve because this is how ABC likes its soaps. Looking at Days under the same Dena Higley who writing I despised at OLTL has been an eye opener. Days is woman dominated and full of traditional stories. If it isn't Higley getting lucky, then it must be that ABC likes its soaps male dominated and misogynist. A do over isn't going to change this and what is done is done.

I also think the problem is the particular women GH has. Carly, Alexis, Sam, Emily, Lulu, Liz...there really isn't one likable one in the bunch. A reset would allow the show to bring back Laura, an Emily who isn't repulsively self-centered, ditto a new Lulu, and good riddance to the other names on that list who are all mob worshiping wastes of time.

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I also think the problem is the particular women GH has. Carly, Alexis, Sam, Emily, Lulu, Liz...there really isn't one likable one in the bunch. A reset would allow the show to bring back Laura, an Emily who isn't repulsively self-centered, ditto a new Lulu, and good riddance to the other names on that list who are all mob worshiping wastes of time.

I'd love to see Lucy, Anna and Tiffany back.

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I also think the problem is the particular women GH has. Carly, Alexis, Sam, Emily, Lulu, Liz...there really isn't one likable one in the bunch. A reset would allow the show to bring back Laura, an Emily who isn't repulsively self-centered, ditto a new Lulu, and good riddance to the other names on that list who are all mob worshiping wastes of time.

Laura, Emily, Georgie, Felicia, Tiffany were not entirely self absorbed characters and I think relatable in a way. All of these woman had careers and aspirations shown at times other than being some piece of *ss. I miss Felicia as the PI, Tiffany as the savvy business woman at times, Georgie as the smart quirky aspiring writer, Laura as the devoted mother with interests outside of her kids too, Emily as the aspiring doctor. IA that none of the female characters on GH are likable. Characters I used to like like Robin aren't close to being the same as they were. I think Days is a perfect example. They have stories centered around women not stories centered around a woman being a prop or just a POA for a man. That's part of why I hate AMC now too besides the fact I detest KEndall and Zach.

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I used to think that if GH got a new headwriter and EP that it still had the potential to improve. Not any more. I have finally accepted that GH will never improve because this is how ABC likes its soaps. Looking at Days under the same Dena Higley who writing I despised at OLTL has been an eye opener. Days is woman dominated and full of traditional stories. If it isn't Higley getting lucky, then it must be that ABC likes its soaps male dominated and misogynistic. A do over isn't going to change this and what is done is done.

Bingo which is why Pratt leaving AMC perplexes me. He's turned AMC into GH so good luck to whoever takes over. I don't think Broderick being the HW will make a bit of difference because I agree it's an ABC thing, not HW specific. Days is by far the best soap on now and that whole baby switch story was about Nicole and Sami. If it was GH or AMC it would be centered around Jason, Sonny, or whichever male was the one involved.

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ITA. I think that there is more to Pratt firing than we currently know.

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No offense to any one here but once again like so many other topics here at SON people are drifting away from the theme of this topic. It's turning into yet another writers shoulda coulda woulda thread. There is a thread for Pratt and LB. THis thread is about soap do overs

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Dallas famously did a do over, and I think it worked for the most part. They had a real casting problem with a dead Bobbie Ewing and the only way to resolve it was saying a year's worth of episodes were a dream. It worked I think, although I believe this was the beginning of the end for that show.

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O WOW. I totally forgot they did one. That is when Dallas jumped the shark. There were lots or rumors that JER was going to do one on Passions

Dallas famously did a do over, and I think it worked for the most part. They had a real casting problem with a dead Bobbie Ewing and the only way to resolve it was saying a year's worth of episodes were a dream. It worked I think, although I believe this was the beginning of the end for that show.

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O WOW. I totally forgot they did one. That is when Dallas jumped the shark. There were lots or rumors that JER was going to do one on Passions

Dallas jumped the shark I think when Victoria Principal left. The show never could fill the void. It limped along for a couple of more years til Linda Gray left, and then there was nothing left to the show.

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I think we have different meanings of what "jump the shark" ,means

Dallas jumped the shark I think when Victoria Principal left. The show never could fill the void. It limped along for a couple of more years til Linda Gray left, and then there was nothing left to the show.

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I think we have different meanings of what "jump the shark" ,means

Normally my definition is when Ted McGinley joins the cast, but without him (and excluding Marriage With Children) I go with the point in the show when they sort of run out of gas, becomes stupid, loses its way, just exists for the sake of existing.

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