Wasn't there a big thing over an ice cream parlor?

Generations was boring, pretentious, and preachy crap that pretended to be high art, but knew it sucked anyway. It gets points for diversity, but let's not kid ourselves, it was never really that great of a show creatively.

Sally Sussman Morina is one of the most boring and cliched writers to ever grace daytime.

The Marshalls were in the ice cream business, I believe it was the matriarch's recipe that made their fortune and bought them the very house her mother worked as a maid in. I didn't watch Generations which is a shame because I had more than one chance to once they started reairing it on BET. It never really interested me, but my great-grandmother, an Eastern European immigrant in her eighties, watched it every day.

ETA: In his Buzz Worthy podcast interview, KSJ criticized the choice of ice cream as their mogul maker, and I tend to agree with him. That's very Imitation of Life/Famous Amos, but a choice nonetheless.

Edited November 29, 200916 yr by SFK

I hardly think Nelson was gushing about Nuke. He just said some good stuff about Jake and then launched into bashing of Nuke's story and Van's acting. Nelson's cynical snarky attitude would be right at home on this board.

On other boards I go to, the feeling on Nuke is more mixed, and not as reflexively negative as among many here.

I have liked both Van and Jake's performances in this story, but especially Van's. Van has been far from phoning it in.

Edited November 29, 200916 yr by jfung79

Generations was boring, pretentious, and preachy crap that pretended to be high art, but knew it sucked anyway. It gets points for diversity, but let's not kid ourselves, it was never really that great of a show creatively.

Sally Sussman Morina is one of the most boring and cliched writers to ever grace daytime.

Let's not forget how she can't handle criticism. That interview thing?

I loved that too I must say. I hate to see the really great vets and younger actors get slighted for being on a soap, but there are definitely some egos in daytime that need to be taken down a few notches.

Well, there are definitely a few egos on GH that need to be taken down a few notches, imo. The way I see it, the younger ones probably don't have any illusions of grandeur yet and the older vets know they are talented. This would probably just sting the few that it should sting and remind them that they are not that far above being fangurls themselves.

Let's not forget how she can't handle criticism. That interview thing?

Oh yes, I hate her now

ETA: In his Buzz Worthy podcast interview, KSJ criticized the choice of ice cream as their mogul maker, and I tend to agree with him. That's very Imitation of Life/Famous Amos, but a choice nonetheless.

I know what Famous Amos cookies are, but I don't quite get the reference or why ice cream was a bad choice for an AA family? The Abbotts on Y&R and the Fusion girls on AMC run cosmetics companies, isn't that equally frivolous?

“I watched AMC and I did a few spots on One Life. I gave up watching AMC because it became so baby-centric. Everybody became, ‘I have to have a baby, I want a baby, I want a baby. If I don’t have a baby, I’m not fulfilled. If I don’t have a baby, I’m not a woman.’ I was like, ‘[screw] off’, and I stopped watching it after 30 years. You are too baby-centric for my ass!”

—One Life character actress, Jackie Hoffman, to Feast Of Fun on why she stopped watching AMC

Translation: One Life has spoiled me with quality, non-sexist soap. Don’t let the door hit you on your way out, Chuck Pratt.

How pathetic. She makes a great point here about AMC's baby rabies and Nelson not only uses it to pimp his beloved OLTL but he just out and out lies by calling them non-sexist.

I suspect AMC's procreation fixation drove away a lot of people.

Can you explain please?

Let's not forget how she can't handle criticism. That interview thing?

How pathetic. She makes a great point here about AMC's baby rabies and Nelson not only uses it to pimp his beloved OLTL but he just out and out lies by calling them non-sexist.

I suspect AMC's procreation fixation drove away a lot of people.

It is annoying, but so many soaps do this now it's hard to get away from it. Then I think about Ryan's Hope and they had maybe 4 babies during the shows entire run? It's so much more pleasant to watch adults going about there business instead of watching every single woman have 3 or 4 babies each.

I know what Famous Amos cookies are, but I don't quite get the reference or why ice cream was a bad choice for an AA family? The Abbotts on Y&R and the Fusion girls on AMC run cosmetics companies, isn't that equally frivolous?

While cosmetics & fashion (B&B & ATWT--back in the day) may be frivolous, they are far more glamorous and intriguing than ice cream. I remember an early G epi and the people were sitting in an ice cream shop chatting. Yawn. I never tuned in again.

Generations was boring, pretentious, and preachy crap that pretended to be high art, but knew it sucked anyway. It gets points for diversity, but let's not kid ourselves, it was never really that great of a show creatively.

Sally Sussman Morina is one of the most boring and cliched writers to ever grace daytime.

Oh, trust me, I'm not defending GEN or anything. I've only seen the first episode. But my point is that, as someone who claims to be so in-the-know with soaps and the industry and everything, Nelson's bitchass should know and understand that GEN wasn't supposed to be an "all-black" soap. It was a soap with a major black family and a major white family, and the point was to show how their lives were connected. But Nelson, like any random person from any soap board, just labels it the "all-black" soap when it was not.

And then he has the audacity to say that that should be beneficial to Jesse and Angie. As if SSM possesses a special skill that allows her to write for black characters that few other writers have.

I know what Famous Amos cookies are, but I don't quite get the reference or why ice cream was a bad choice for an AA family? The Abbotts on Y&R and the Fusion girls on AMC run cosmetics companies, isn't that equally frivolous?

Famous (Wally) Amos is a black man who made his fortune and fame from a cookie recipe. In the original film version of Imitation of Life, Delilah has a similar success story, in her case it's pancakes. It's just the old tried-and-true convention of rich black folks in fiction making their money through food, sports, or music. I think KSJ proffered John Johnson and his Ebony magazine as a more viable example.

Famous (Wally) Amos is a black man who made his fortune and fame from a cookie recipe. In the original film version of Imitation of Life, Delilah has a similar success story, in her case it's pancakes. It's just the old tried-and-true convention of rich black folks in fiction making their money through food, sports, or music. I think KSJ proffered John Johnson and his Ebony magazine as a more viable example.

I understand now. Thanks for the explanation.

Good for Nelson for calling Van out on his terrible acting. He truly has been phoning it in. What's up with that. Is Van as bored with Jake as most of us are?