WORD.

It's nasty and done purely for shock value. Not only is he hiding that he stole her baby, but this hack writing team is trying to force romance on them? It's a little bit too much, and too soon.

Muhney and Case have no chemistry, AT ALL. They can't sell this (not that Muhney in particular can sell anything with his "acting.")

They're trying so hard to make them work so when the reveal comes out that he gave Sharon's baby to Ashley it would be more intense, but it doesn't work. They didn't need to go there for a good reveal.

I don't buy Adam having romantic feelings for Sharon, they've been friends for what, 2 months? I did believe at one point that he loved Heather, even though he used her. You're telling me he can completely disregard his feelings for Heather and develop feelings for Sharon in the course of two months? Also, they were trying so hard to force that Sharon could never get over Nick and love another man the same way a few months ago, so now she's suppressing that and can develop something with Adam, of all people? Talk about sh!tty and inconsistent character writing and development on this show.

It's like they've been writing the character of Adam a little differently to suit this horrible recast, and it's still not working...

I think the opposite. MAB clearly stated that Adam is a sociopath in an interview with Branco which to me they have sold that aspect. Clearly they didn't need to take the character there, but I think in that aspect Muhney has been giving them what they wanted. This is why I kind of understood Engen's "issues"; he no longer knew or understood the character and by all indications he disagreed with the characterization going this route. Now I will say this sociopath(ism?) as depicted in Adam is not even romantic on a soap. When I see Adam and Sharon I think predator and prey (not in any good sense). I always try to respect the opinion of others, but when I read posts of fans who claim to like the Adam/ Sharon pairing I admit I'mma bit bewildered. I mean viewers saw what Adam did to Ashley right? I havn't felt any vulnerability or remorse from the character since Engen left the role. Then we saw what he did to Sharon. Remorse was an "afterthought", almost forced in these plot points. I no longer believed the character felt any kind of sorry. Sorry MM never sold me int hat way. This pairing is wrong for many reasons and it is not just because it victimizes both the characters of Sharon and Ashley in its wake, it's also because part of the problem with the writing has been the misogyny. The approach here has been to me: a glance at men who are d!cks and the women who love them anyway' no matter the loss of self respect. Phyllis, Heather, Sharon, Mac, Chloe, Patty, Ashley etcetcetc. The Adam and Sharon pairing crosses the line for me a bit more. IMO if the writers are this fascinated by more , darker misogyny they need to make it clear it is not romance because it is not.

The last pairing she generated chemistry in was with Billy and she had absolutely none at all with Peter Bergman, yet they had the characters marry which was very painful for everyone. They should have developed this so called Friendship between Sharon and Adam a long time ago and aborted this stupid baby switch storyline entirely. I really wish that Adam was just gone at this point because he is so destroyed. Maybe we could see some masked man grab him off the street, throw him in a trunk and that could be it for a long time.

I think Mac is being written as a nutcase. She should be the voice of reason advising big baby Lily that now is not the time to have a baby. That she is supporting this is ridiculous.

Why oh why can't Gloria ever have a downfall? She is not comic relief and should be facing charges for aiding and abetting Patty's escape. Colleen wouldn't even be dead if it wasn't for her and her hubby. Yet here these two are getting a pay cheque for no F'ing reason.

I havn't watched much of them but the scenes I saw of both Adam and Sharon I just got a feeling that SC was not very comfortable with the overall tone of the character dynamics but I could surely be wrong.

Shadam, eh? Funny.

I find the chemistry between the actors to be enjoyable...Sharon has a lightness with him, and he seems sincere and wanting to be a better guy with her. (That's what I see in his performance, and it is also what Muhney says he's trying to play). Plus, the built-in drama with Nicholas, and with the baby Adam stole...means it is all a deliciously soapy confection.

Let me be clear...I wish they'd dialed back on Adam's villainy a year ago. But they didn't...this is what they wanted to write. So far, I am on board. I find Muhney to be capable. I tend to view Adam as a bit of a compartmentalized fella, who locks all these pieces of himself in different "rooms". (Yes, that is also the profile of dissociated serial killer, and I continue to believe there is some very dark backstory for Adam that we can only guess at). I think Muhney plays a little edgy and a little crazy, and for me that fits the version of Adam they have been trying to serve us for almost a year.

But starry-eyed fandom over this couple?? That's funny! I think it is the sickness that brought them together...and maybe the fact that they strangely overcome it a little when they are together...that makes them more compelling.And make no mistake: "Shadam" fans are probably really "Phick" fans in sheep's clothing, LOL.

The dynamic between Sharon and Adam shoould have been the writers opportunity of redeveloping Sharon. I think what should probably have occured is maybe more friendship and no coupling before the big reveal. It would have given the audience a bit more opportunity to sympathize with each and the baby switch wouldn't then be for nothing. I don't get how you are Mark but I am not at all compelled by any of this

Edited November 18, 200916 yr by classicmoment

Lily needs her magic cure if it's not going to come from having sex with Cane " Magic Wand". Maybe the baby is going ot be that cure. That why Lily's in a rush for a baby.

Edited November 18, 200916 yr by MoTheGreat

If something is too contrived and is poorly built up, then it's not soapy, at least in my opinion. That's how I feel about Adam/Sharon.

Sometimes you can avoid the obvious and still tell a good story.

It would have been very, very easy, and some would say soapy, for Sharon to have gotten together with Victor early on, when he was paying her mother's hospital bills and when he was, I believe, starting to split from Hope. Yet, if they had done this, would Sharon even be around today?

Edited November 18, 200916 yr by CarlD2

I think the opposite. MAB clearly stated that Adam is a sociopath in an interview with Branco which to me they have sold that aspect. Clearly they didn't need to take the character there, but I think in that aspect Muhney has been giving them what they wanted. This is why I kind of understood Engen's "issues"; he no longer knew or understood the character and by all indications he disagreed with the characterization going this route. Now I will say this sociopath(ism?) as depicted in Adam is not even romantic on a soap. When I see Adam and Sharon I think predator and prey (not in any good sense). I always try to respect the opinion of others, but when I read posts of fans who claim to like the Adam/ Sharon pairing I admit I'mma bit bewildered. I mean viewers saw what Adam did to Ashley right? I havn't felt any vulnerability or remorse from the character since Engen left the role. Then we saw what he did to Sharon. Remorse was an "afterthought", almost forced in these plot points. I no longer believed the character felt any kind of sorry. Sorry MM never sold me int hat way. This pairing is wrong for many reasons and it is not just because it victimizes both the characters of Sharon and Ashley in its wake, it's also because part of the problem with the writing has been the misogyny. The approach here has been to me: a glance at men who are d!cks and the women who love them anyway' no matter the loss of self respect. Phyllis, Heather, Sharon, Mac, Chloe, Patty, Ashley etcetcetc. The Adam and Sharon pairing crosses the line for me a bit more. IMO if the writers are this fascinated by more , darker misogyny they need to make it clear it is not romance because it is not.

Maria overused Adam like she did Billy.

Both characters would have been fine in a couple of stories but she's relied on them so much as plot dependent story movers it's diluted any impact the characters would have.

Maria overused Adam like she did Billy.

Both characters would have been fine in a couple of stories but she's relied on them so much as plot dependent story movers it's diluted any impact the characters would have.

They are over used IMO because they have weak character development. Last year we were able to stand watching Katherine go off the road and go through her whole ordeal because they used Katherine's and other verteran characters history as a clutch to carry this story. They are unable to do much of that with Billy and Adam and instead of properly developing each character, whilst they move them along within the plot, they pull these manytime confusing, conflicting, ooc characteristics to move the plot along. Of course, as it seems, they are trying to set up new legacy for new generation characters but they are so many discrepancies there. IMO the ADAM character can be salvaged in many ways but I do not view him as a hero or an anti hero at this point. I don't know where he falls it is somewhere between villainous tyrant and cartoon villain. As for Billy I don't even care to watch these writers version of him

Edited November 18, 200916 yr by classicmoment

They are unable to do much of that with Billy and Adam and instead of properly developing each character, whilst they move them along within the plot, they pull these manytime confusing, conflicting, ooc haracteristics to move the plot along. Of course, as it seems, they are trying to set up new legacy for new generation characters but they are so many discrepancies there.

Adam yes.

Billy no.

Maria has written Billy way OOC but LML did too.

Victor Jr. though was a relatively fresh character & she screwed him up royally.

Muhney is a strong enough actor to make the character work despite the horrible writing but between his tics & Morrow's complete laziness it's resulted in a world of suck.

Adam yes.

Billy no.

Maria has written Billy way OOC but LML did too.

Victor Jr. though was a relatively fresh character & she screwed him up royally.

Muhney is a strong enough actor to make the character work despite the horrible writing but between his tics & Morrow's complete laziness it's resulted in a world of suck.

Yeah I know what u mean, to be clear I was speaking of Billy as a developed character in terms of being compared to a richly developed character like Katherine. But that's what I mean when I say "these writers version of Billy" Their idea is for him to be more like Jack reminiscent of Terry Lester's days. It doesn't work because it marks the character as being completly and utterly self indulgent. But then the character is self indulgent and a viewer like me realizes he has no substance, so what's the point of him being front & center and self indulgent again? Anyway I smh at all these things

Edited November 18, 200916 yr by classicmoment

But that's what I mean when I say "these writers version of Billy" Their idea is for him to be more like Jack reminiscent of Terry Lester's days. It doesn't work because it marks the character as being completly and utterly self indulgent. But then the character is self indulgent and a viewer like me realizes he has no substance, so what's the point of him being front & center and self indulgent again? Anyway I smh at all these things

Jack Smith/LML threw Billy under the bus & Maria's left tire marks over his dessicated carcass.

Who was playing Billy under Jack Smith? Because I don't remember Billy being there.

Who was playing Billy under Jack Smith? Because I don't remember Billy being there.

Ryan Brown at the beginning of Smith's tenure.

Ryan Brown at the beginning of Smith's tenure.

I liked Ryan bRown they could have kept him but got rid of his Mac. Jack did Billy wrong because they made Katherine & Jill mother & daughter. Is that what your referring too Deeedee? See I had no problem with that. That's why I didn't see Jack Smith did something wrong. But LML writinging Billy as a sufer dude. Those fumes defintely was sipping throuh her scalp.

Is that what your referring too Deeedee?

Nope.

Jack threw him under a bus for JT.

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATE.

But LML writinging Billy as a sufer dude. Those fumes defintely was sipping throuh her scalp.

For Daniel & Kevin.

Ugh.

Ugh, Ugh, Ugh.

Most of today's show was pretty good, mainly because of the business storyline. Now this makes it two things that I'm excited about. And it was great seeing Vail/Heather's smokin hot bod again.

It looks like it might actually have potential so we'll soon see.

Edited November 18, 200916 yr by Leia

I hate Maria. On one hand, today had alot of good things in it. Tricia Cast was brilliant, and Nina is the best thing this show has right now. Mac and Kay and their heart to heart was lovely, and Nick and Jack's scene was tender and good... FINALLY they start playing on the Stepfather/stepson dynamic with those two. And Stafford today is burning like a supernova, her and Haiduk are INCREDIBLE together. And yet.... PHILLIP, what theyv'e done to him!!!! Bring him back from the dead just to ship him off. And THIS BITCH wants us to believe a man whose Ex-wife had to hold his hand, and nearly FORCE him to tell Jill and Kay that he likes to suck dick just WEEKS ago, is NOW going to go back to Australia to bravely protect CANE from evil cattle rustlers? REALLY? And this was supposed to be our long term committment to gay characters, after all the press? After all the publicity Thom and us fans gave her and this show? I just feel USED. F@CK YOU Maria.

And yet.... PHILLIP, what theyv'e done to him!!!! Bring him back from the dead just to ship him off. And THIS BITCH wants us to believe a man whose Ex-wife had to hold his hand, and nearly FORCE him to tell Jill and Kay that he likes to suck dick just WEEKS ago, is NOW going to go back to Australia to bravely protect CANE from evil cattle rustlers? REALLY? And this was supposed to be our long term committment to gay characters, after all the press? After all the publicity Thom and us fans gave her and this show? I just feel USED. F@CK YOU Maria.

I want to shoot this post in the heart & marry it to a rabid chipmunk.

Maria is insane not to let Nina be GC's Maureen Bauer.