And where the hell is Teresa Blake? Actually, I just looked her up on IMDb and someone wrote that she fell in love and had two great kids. Ahh, Gloria and the rice pudding... I guess Gloria was *somewhat* of a precursor to Annie (Gloria's crazy was more justifiable/better motivated).

How did they write out Angelique, does anyone remember? That was one of the most gothic storylines ever on the show. Helga wheeling her all catatonic/mute into the party in that old-fashioned wheelchair, that was so creepy.

ETA: the episode where they buried Anna Claire and played "Tears From Heaven" and Erica gave Gloria Mona's bible and then ran into Dimitri and they kind of reconciled, that could have been a stand alone primetime episode... SO good!

Teresa Blake grew into a fine actress. I thought she was robbed of an Emmy nomination during the Adam/Stuart/Gloria triangle. I never really appreciated David Canary until that story.

I only ever liked Gloria when she was with Tad. Hated her before that and hated her with Dimitri

I admit I always loved her--I loved the revealtionsof her awful mother, how Stuart helped her feel better about herself, how Adam sorta tore that away and then how Alex did the same lol

I would have liked to have seen Kate playing a less crazy Janet.

I think Angelique just left town.

She did though she came back at elast once--maybe for Edmund's wedding or Dimitri's? and for a while she'd be mentioned--she sent them a train set for Wildwind one Xmas, etc I loved Angelique lol--I was only 12 or so when that story aired but I felt a lot of sympathy for her--who knows, as an adult now I may find her dull to the extreme,

Loved it!!!!

Yeah Nixon/McTaish went all out gothic for the Wildwind stuff--we had the wife in the attic liek Jane Eyre, the creepy meddlesome housekeeper with ties to the old wife like Rebecca, and shades of Wuthering Heights all thrown in! Loved it lol

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Man I loved the whole Budapest remote--witnh Helga falling off the roof. I can't seem to find any of it on youtube.

The last time I remember seeing Angelique was when she was making an out of town phone call to Edmund maybe. I didn't realize that Season Hubley had a bit of a visible career pre-AMC, I remember watching the Rosie O'Donnell show one day and Rosie was racking her brain about an episode of The Partridge Family and she couldn't remember who the guest star was, and she threw out Season Hubley as one of the possibilities, it was so random to me to hear Season's name mentioned. Wasn't she married to a famous rock star for a time or something?

Yes. back when Angelique was on the show, we used to get Partridge reruns here in Canada and I remember Isaw the episode with her (I believe she played the princess of some made up country who fell in love with one of them)

Man I loved the whole Budapest remote--witnh Helga falling off the roof. I can't seem to find any of it on youtube.

I'd love to re-watch that too. I'm sure I have it on VHS somewhere.

Funny how this thread was supposed to be about Friday's episode, yet we're all discussing stuff from the past (which was so much better!)

AMC nostalgia seems to be in the air--Carl and I basically turned the OLTL not going to HD thread to a discussion of 90s AMC as well LOL

I hope folks "who matter" are paying attention. The fact that we get all excited about what was opposed to what is is nothing to be taken lightly. The economy has sh!t to do with good storytelling. Let me repeat,

THE ECONOMY HAS SH!T TO DO WITH GOOD STORYTELLING.

And if you can't deliver, go out and find someone who can. Don't be afraid to ask for pointers, advice.

*EFAIE

Edited October 19, 200916 yr by SFK

I was such a rabidly crazy AMC fan back in the day, that I recall a lot of little things from that time period. I thought it was such a unique show, with some really great idiosyncratic characters that you wouldn't find on any other show, it never took itself totally seriously, and it had a very small town/Peyton Place-ish feel to it. I found the show almost magical in a way and was totally drawn to it. Other shows in that era might've been quirkier and taken more chances (OLTL, SB), had better production values (Y&R), and deeper writing (ATWT, AW), but there was just something different about AMC. I suppose every soap fan feels that way about the one show they hold dearest to their heart. Sadly, the show is just putrid at this point. Just utterly unwatchable garbage for me. I'm not a huge Nelson Branco fan, but I definitely feel the way he feels about the show. It has toally lost these elements that defined it and made it so special. It's lost its identity and has that "stink" about it that comes from rotting away before our eyes.

I miss that era of AMC too, people really take for granted how infinitely watchable a small town of people having to DEAL with one another is. Such great characters, not this wash of generic we see today.

AMC always had a lot of character and never took itself too seriously. It also had a strong identity, and a balance of characters. There were unquestionably good, decent people. They weren't "good" people who did horrible things but were OK because others are worse or because they sometimes felt bad about it. That is the type of character that someone like Pratt, or Frons, would probably sneer at.

They also had such fun characters, who still had a heart deep down.

ICAM! That was the Pine Valley I fell in love with in 1980 when I was 12 years old. I miss the quirky characters, the daily dose of comedy and genuine small town feeling that most soaps even back then didn't have.

One of the HUGE problems right now -- aside from lack of good storytelling -- is the fact that so much of the show (well, too much of the show) takes place in that damn hospital.

Seriously, lately, whenever I think of AMC, I immediately think of that damn hospital corridor with tacky fluorescent lighting where everyone hangs out -- even when they don't have to be there.

Season Hubley was kind enough to make a last-minute appearance due to Frances Heflin's illness. In the plot, Dimitri needed a warm shoulder to lean on/get advice from regarding his relationship with Erica. It was supposed to be a pivotal scene. Originally, he was supposed to seek out Mona's advice. Fran Heflin was too ill with cancer at that point to make an appearance, so they called up Season to stand in for her. Again, the little things I remember!

That was a nice thing for her to do, and one of the little ways AMC used to make things right. Today, Angelique would return briefly, be revealed as a secret killer, and be gunned down by Peggy.

I agree about the hospital being used too much (before that it was Fusion--both ugly sets). AMC badly needs to try to get back some of that sense of community (and a sense that not eveyrone has endless cash).

I also loved tha tmix of larger than life characters (some even verged onc aricature but never quite did) humour, etc with the soap drama--Interesting though reading some soap books from teh 70s and early 80s many traditional soap fans--or writers anyway, weren't fully convinced of it. I remember one soap book sayign the show was consistantly well written but it could be heard to watch because you'd have a dramatic tragic scene back to back with a comic one--liek flipping the channel between Love Story and some comedy. but I find this a strength--which is why I prefer the AGnes Nixon style of soap over the Bill Bell style

Re the Wildwind stories--every so often Nixon tries gothic storytelling (WIldwind in many ways echoed the Courtland intro story) which isn't her usual stgyle but she does seem to have a strong interest in it (some have argued her gothic stories often weren'ther strongest though, as I said, I loved all that Wildwind stuff)