Childhood memory of Natalie in a wheelchair at the hospital after having Timmy sharing a bitchy exchange with Erica... didn't Nat try to pass the baby off as Jeremy's at first? And he of course was Alex's.

I liked "good", reformed, Nattie, but Natalie was a good bitch. A great foe for Erica. Her look, that voice... Montana Moorehead/Nurse Nan from Soapdish always reminds me of Natalie.

Natalie was a great bitch. She always spoke in such a proper way. Kate Collins is a great actress. And then of course Natalie and Trevor. Such different people, yet what a great couple.

Brooke never stabbed Erica and left her for dead. I don't think we can expect Erica to commiserate with Annie. Maybe not until they go to Africa together to feed hungry children.

That's actually another bone of contention for me. Erica may not have stabbed Brooke, but she did stab Dimitri when she was in a fugue state, just like Annie was in when she stabbed her. For Erica to just conveniently forget that fact and have nobody else in Pine Valley ever mention it has been annoying!

Natalie was a great bitch. She always spoke in such a proper way. Kate Collins is a great actress. And then of course Natalie and Trevor. Such different people, yet what a great couple.

I love Natalie when she was a total bitch. She truly was an equal foe for Erica!

Natalie & Trevor were the daytime equivalent of Bogie & Bacall.

I'm veering way OT here, but I'm getting choked up remembering my mom getting choked up at Melody Anderson's Natalie regaining her site looking at the Christmas angel. How Another Life.

Okay, so how great of a liar is little Emma going to be when she grows up when she'd already mastered the art of fake coma. I kept staring at her eyeballs remembering what Kim Zimmer said about keeping your lids half-mast cuz if you close 'em all the way they'll be flutterin' like crazy. I just lapsed into Kimmie Zimmie right there. I actually think that if given the chance, little Emma could be the most interesting teen character the show has seen in a LONG time.

Was Erica dipping in the Miley Cyrus collection? She is way too old to be wearing the top she had on not that she cares

Was Erica dipping in the Miley Cyrus collection? She is way too old to be wearing the top she had on not that she cares

I noticed her top too. Something is going on with the wardrobe people because all the characters seem to be wearing similar things. Budget cuts I presume.

I hated Lauren Roman's Laura with a passion. Her hair was gigantic and she was this sour-mouthed gorgon. Granted, Laura Allen was a different can of worms, aside from her enchanting lesbian flirtation. She was the dykiest chick I've ever seen on the show.

I loved Kelsey. I hated when she just disappeared. As did Becca Tyree, BTW. Last seen, I believe, at a PV funeral.

I detested Michael Lowry as Jake but he's actually wonderful as Ross Rayburn on OLTL, opposite Kassie DePaiva.

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I hated Lauren Roman's Laura with a passion. Her hair was gigantic and she was this sour-mouthed gorgon. Granted, Laura Allen was a different can of worms, aside from her enchanting lesbian flirtation. She was the dykiest chick I've ever seen on the show.

I'll give Pratt credit for one thing: he's good at weaving and integrating the characters. I liked how he used Jake and Amanda in Kendall's escape. Yes I know, why does everyone have to be dragged into Kendall's life?

He also did a similar thing with having Randi discover Amanda's baby in the alley.

I didn't mind the Erica/Annie scenes. They were so much better than the toilet incident a few weeks back.

Not true. Natalie and Erica fought over Jeremy.

I know, but I meant I think it was more about their personalities than about Jeremy himself.

I hated Lauren Roman's Laura with a passion. Her hair was gigantic and she was this sour-mouthed gorgon. Granted, Laura Allen was a different can of worms, aside from her enchanting lesbian flirtation. She was the dykiest chick I've ever seen on the show.

I loved Kelsey. I hated when she just disappeared. As did Becca Tyree, BTW. Last seen, I believe, at a PV funeral.

I detested Michael Lowry as Jake but he's actually wonderful as Ross Rayburn on OLTL, opposite Kassie DePaiva.

I HATED him as Jake as well so wasn'texpecting to enjoy him so much on OLTL!

Becca was a mistake during Agnes Nixon'slast era at the show--I think she wanted a pure old fashioned soap heroine, not realizing that the time had passed for characters like her 1970s Tara (or even 1980s Dixie)--plus the actress was blah. She created Greenlee as her foil who of course became much more popular

Lauren Roman's Laura was ok at first--when she was in the cabin with Janet and Pierce number 1 but I agree abotu her later. I liekd Laura Allen at first--when she flirted with Bianca, etc, it was when Jean Passanante took over writing her and she suddenly went from world wise and sophsiticated to PSYCHO man obsessed I lost interest.

And I loved Kelsey too but most of all with Kevin Sheffield--who also disappeared (I think the actor disappeared as well)

I'll give Pratt credit for one thing: he's good at weaving and integrating the characters. I liked how he used Jake and Amanda in Kendall's escape. Yes I know, why does everyone have to be dragged into Kendall's life?

He also did a similar thing with having Randi discover Amanda's baby in the alley.

I didn't mind the Erica/Annie scenes. They were so much better than the toilet incident a few weeks back.

Yes I wish Pratt would do this more. But he is better at doing it than the last few AMC headwriters have been.

I actually suddenly kinda get Erica's constant "Ryan is the dream father" stuff--I only clued in the other day that Erica oddly (kinda yucky-ey) sees Ryan in a way as the father she wished she had had.

That's actually another bone of contention for me. Erica may not have stabbed Brooke, but she did stab Dimitri when she was in a fugue state, just like Annie was in when she stabbed her. For Erica to just conveniently forget that fact and have nobody else in Pine Valley ever mention it has been annoying!

But isn't that what we should expect from her?

I honestly don't remember where Cosgrove ended and March began, or was it the other way around? Wow, I seem to forget that there were so many Scotts. I have an old episode on tape with the first older Scott whose name I'm forgetting, he was on Swan's Crossing as the cool hotshot dude on there with SMG as Sydney, then he ended up playing milquetoast Scott... at any rate, the scene is in Michael's class, and creepy milquetoast Scott is eating his heart out watching Anita go gaga over Bobby who's at the front of the class doing some "funny" presentation to the class. This new Scott reminds me more of an older version of that Scott, Cosgrove and March in between are like another Scott all their own.But back to

I don'tmind new Scott eithe rway really--I HATED the first Scott. He just seemed so... effeminate or something to me.

That first Pierce was hot, and also not a bad actor, although I started hating the character when they had him turn against Janet and go to Brooke and they were going to have Janet get plastic surgery to look like Brooke. Then the actor had that big huge mess at Planet Hollywood and the character was never really the same.

As much as I have an odd like for Maxwell Caulfeld Pierce only worked with the first actor (I just remember the second one was BAD). It's too bad the actor did that, as you said and really had to be fired. In Worlds Without End there's an essay abotu gay fans and soaps and some survey from the time said Pierce number one as the "hottest" male lead on the show according to gay audiences.

I think Kelsey did have an exit. She took a job out of town at a news station. I believe in California. I remember being annoyed because her goodbye scene was with Ryan, not her family.

Kevin and Becca did vanish without exits. Tina did as well.

I also sort of liked MC's Pierce, but by that time the character was done. There's something oddly comforting about MC as a screen presence, sort of like an old dog you don't want to dislike. Still, he, and his ever-shifting accent, and Christina with the bad wig, none of that fit the show.

I think the problem with the first Laura was they made her bitter all the time. No levity at all.

I think Kelsey did have an exit. She took a job out of town at a news station. I believe in California. I remember being annoyed because her goodbye scene was with Ryan, not her family.

Kevin and Becca did vanish without exits. Tina did as well.

I also sort of liked MC's Pierce, but by that time the character was done. There's something oddly comforting about MC as a screen presence, sort of like an old dog you don't want to dislike. Still, he, and his ever-shifting accent, and Christina with the bad wig, none of that fit the show.

I think the problem with the first Laura was they made her bitter all the time. No levity at all.

Totally agreed about Max C--you put it better than I could. lol His Pierce was undeniably cheezy (made even more so by the scenes he had him play) but I couldn't dislike him--plus I had a crush on him in Grease 2 lol. But yeah the whole Christina story, ugh what a Mess. I think by then Pierce had really--already--done all he could as a character with the recasts, etc.

Poor Brooke. And if somehow they could ever get Julia Bar back I would give all my faith forever and ever in Frons, Pratt and Carruthers. It's probably the single one thing that'shappened to AMC in the past ten eyars that guts me the most. The odd thign is at the time too t kinda seemed to happen by surprise--I don't remember anything close to the drama we seem to get now when an Eric Braeden or Robin Strasser's contract is on the line. I know Julia Barr was never quite regarded at that level (for shame) but still

Yes, there was very little backlash at all about what happened to Julia. Many fans were bothered but the show doesn't care that much about the fans. Some of the actors were upset (I believe Eva la Rue and Sarah Michelle Gellar even complained to the press), but there wasn't the reaction which you got with some other firings. I think it's because AMC had already dwindled Brooke down to such a low level of importance, and AMC was already seen as being in such a bad place anyway. It sucks because Julia Barr really is a wonderful actress, and very subtle, which is rare on soaps today. She also does so much for animals.

Max Caulfield is on Emmerdale now. If you have Youtube you should check out some of his scenes. His acting is still...erratic, along with his accent, but he's a better fit for this character than he was as scarred vet/mountain man Pierce.

I'm not into Annie these days but I do think Melissa Claire Egan is a very good actress. There are a lot of talented people on the show, even if it they are hidden behind drek.

Did they ever say what happened to Carmen?