Thank you so much Carl for finding/sharing that link to Reva being mowed down, I had always understood it to be a second suicide attempt but clearly it is not, more of Reva wandering around disoriented with Josh in the area(for the wedding perhaps?) with that chance of fate meeting. That is a gorgeous setting, made even better by yes the music and Reva's gorgeous over the top dress.

Regarding Kyle I understand he didn't die but was shown to be in a coma, one from which I don't believe he ever woke up from. It would have been very interesting if someone in the 90s had written Kyle back into town, seeing he was Ben's bio father as well. Actually 1995 would have been perfect, imagine an amnesiac Reva living happily by a recovered Kyle who was keeping her a secret.

I'm confused over a storyline involving Alex's knowledge of Marah's true paternity. Apparently Alex told H.B. the truth about Marah's paternity and he stood by her but broke off their engagement due to being appalled at her power plays at Spaulding. This happened in the spring of '88, a year before Reva learned the truth in the spring of '89. Why didn't H.B. tell anyone else about Marah being Josh's daughter, and thus his granddaughter? Or did she even tell him? Apparently after he broke things off he immediately left town. Writers strike inconsistency perhaps?

Even though it was bad of Alex, if anyone seen the 1989 episode where Alex is on her death's door and is shown whatt life were to be like if she dies Alex is quite visibly upset over Alan's abusing Reva and the fact Josh still doesn't know and is forbidden from even seeing Marah and Reva.

I always thought that is exactly what should have happened, that Reva is found living it up with Kyle on some island somewhere (not San Crud) where he controls his business interests from afar. I can see why they had Reva in a "country," situation, after Ghost Reva we needed to know she was alive and breathing and RealReva was such a robust character it made sense to have her filmed in the sunlight. The Amish thing was stupid. I also think it would have been great to bring in Kyle as the big bad. I think he was popular but RR's Alan just sucked from the get go. A Kyle return taking on Lewis Oil and Spaulding, making Josh and Alex form an uneasy alliance to protect their interests and their families would have been great. Plus Reva having a few more kids with Kyle after the fact. I really dont know how there could have been a Kyle/Reva romance after that though, as how could Reva forgive him for not telling her about her kids? Maybe after Reva finds out she leaves Kyle and moves to the Jessup farm to gradually get her memory back and take care of herself. Kyle comes blazing into town ready for revenge and forms an alliance with Roger to take on Josh and Alex, with Reva stuck in the crossfire.

Alex never told H.B. the truth. One thing that was consistent was the Alex was both trying to protect Alan and using the truth as leverage (remember on soaps when characters had warring motivations and were not good or evil but something in between?)

I believe Josh was back but trying to stay hidden because he was involved in flushing out the evil trucking scheme that was going on at this time, and had just killed poor Mindy's husband Kurt. That was part of the kind of ludicrous, but also sad, scenes where they kept putting off telling her because they wanted her to enjoy the wedding.

Here's the last half of a February 1988 episode. I guess this was not long before the strike.

Geez I think Will and Reva have the same hairdo! Only in the 80's.

Edited September 9, 201114 yr by CarlD2

Regarding Kyle I understand he didn't die but was shown to be in a coma, one from which I don't believe he ever woke up from.

Honestly, I vaguely recall the scene-in-question, but I'm definitely sure there was a phone call relaying word about the crash.

Edited September 9, 201114 yr by Khan

I always thought that is exactly what should have happened, that Reva is found living it up with Kyle on some island somewhere (not San Crud) where he controls his business interests from afar.

That sounds good, Mitch, but unless Kyle were an amnesiac, too, and he had no idea who Reva was or what previous history they had shared, I'd be worried about damaging Kyle's character along with the Kyle/Reva relationship; and Jeva fans be damned, but I would do whatever it took to keep both relationships, or the whole push-and-pull of a Reva/Josh/Kyle triangle, "alive."

The Amish thing was stupid.

Not really. If Megan McTavish had bothered to include flashbacks to when Kyle and Reva spent that time on the other Amish farm, I think viewers would have been more accepting of the story, believing Reva had come to Goshen in the first place because the place and the people reminded her of some vague memories that she otherwise could not have explained.

(remember on soaps when characters had warring motivations and were not good or evil but something in between?)

Those were the days....

March 1955 TV Radio Mirror

May 1963 TV Radio Mirror

Edited September 10, 201114 yr by CarlD2

On this 10th anniversary of 9/11, let us pause to remember the late T.J. Hargrave (1962-2001) who played T.J. Werner, the adopted son of Drs. Joe and Sara Werner on Guiding Light (1974-76). He was working as a Vice-President of Cantor Fitzgerald at the time of the attacks on the World Trade Center.

Edited September 11, 201114 yr by edgeofnight

Carl I remember Lynne Adams' first go round as Leslie Jackson. She was not necessarily pretty but she was fiesty. I always liked Fran Myers better as Peggy. I think Barbara Rodell made the role her own and it's really her I remember most as Leslie. Lynne went on to play Amy on Secret Storm and I really liked her in that role. I think she and David Ackroyd had great chemistry...and then Jada Rowland shows up at the 1972 anniversary party, having spent all her money in Europe and she needed a job..and voila she was stunningly back as Amy. Lynne then exercised her right(?) and re-claimed Leslie Norris from Barbara. I don't think fans were that happy about Lynne returning. Barbara's Leslie had married Mike Bauer. Barbara had a vogueish beauty as Leslie and I don't know, it was jarring to have Lynne back. But gradually she won me over again. Their stories were kind of stupid - worrying about Hope, etc. but then Victoria Ballenger showed up (Carol Teitel) and now Leslie has her mother while her father is kvetching. That was good stuff. Freddie missing during the fishing trip - they couldn't kill off Freddie could they, and have Mike blamed?? More good stuff. So I was shocked the show decided to kill off Leslie. Adams and Stewart were finally gelling as the future tentpoles. Again, I think the idea of Mike being free to have romances was enticing stuff to play out. I just think Stewart emotionally wasn't into any of the actresses - with the exception of Lezlie Dalton. I guess the ratings got a shot up, but there was a void and Steve Jackson was kind of relegated to the background at the hospital. Steve and Bert remained close but he was such a great character. I wish in later years Rick Bauer had mentioned his grandfather.

This bio for Charita Bauer appeared in Soap News 11/17/99:

In 1950, Charita Bauer took over as the voice of Bert Bauer on The Guiding Light radio show. When the show began on television at the end of June 1952, Charita continued to play the role of Bert. She appeared on Guiding Light as Bert until health problems forced her to stop playing the role at the end of 1984. Her last airdate was December 10, 1984.

It's merely a coincidence that Charita's last name is the same as her character. However, she did ask the writers to name her first on-screen child Mike. When Mike Bauer was born, Charita also had a son. Since GL was filmed live, she was afraid she'd slip up and call Mike Bauer by her own son's name. If the names were the same, slip-ups weren't an issue. The writers agreed.

Those who've been watching Guiding Light for a long time know what a remarkable woman Bert Bauer was. She wasn't originally like that. She used to be quite a nag Bill Bauer, turned to other women and alcohol). Through the years Bert Bauer turned into the kind-hearted soul that many grew to love. For those who were fortunate to work with Charita Bauer, they knew what a kind, caring person she was. She was the "mom" behind the scenes. She would fill newcomers in on Guiding Light's history and stories.

Robert Newman recalls "She was just so great. My fondest memories are when we had the chance to act together in the hospital scenes back around '83. She had gotten her leg amputated in real life and wanted it written into the show. They obliged and Bert went through the same procedure. At the same time, Josh had been paralyzed from the waist down and was not too happy about his predicament. We had several scenes in which Bert would come to Josh with the "Come on kid, you can do it!" kind of speeches. In the studio she was always a total professional. Sharp wit and incredible presence. Not many like her will come this way again. These days we don't really have a pre-ordained, appointed-by-God leader like that. Jerry ver Dorn comes closest, but I think even he would agree that Charita was something very different. I miss her."

Charita Bauer was born on December 20, 1923 in Newark, New Jersey. She made her Broadway debut at the age of nine, playing a role in Christopher Morley's Thunder on the Left. She held many radio show roles, including parts on Our Gal Sunday and Young Widder Brown. Charita was divorced and had one son.

In the late 1970s, Charita was given the Outstanding Mother Award by the National Mother's Day Committee. In 1983 she received a Lifetime Achievement Emmy for her work in daytime television. Charita left GL in late 1984 due to her health problems. She died on February 28, 1985 in New York City. She was 62. The Bauer family on Guiding Light mourned Bert on the show in 1986.

That photo is so startling. It almost looks like her face was put on there.

I have an old Radio Mirror with Charita on the cover; this was from the early 40's.

I love Bert but I love her most of all when she's a real b!tch in GL's 50's episodes. I wish she hadn't been quite so sweet all the time later on.

I love Bert but I love her most of all when she's a real b!tch in GL's 50's episodes. I wish she hadn't been quite so sweet all the time later on.

When it is a choice between coffee with Nancy or Bert I would prefer to coffee with Bert mainly due to it probably being extra extra strong with Bill and Ed around

Edited September 15, 201114 yr by soapfan770

I'd love to have a meal with Papa and Bert. Just one "Berta" to get through the day.

Bill always seems like a big fat loser to me. I never know why fans complained about him being written as such in his 1978 return.

Edited September 15, 201114 yr by CarlD2

I was reading in a Digest from late 1989 that Joe Willmore (or is it Whitmore?) didn't think Ellen Parker was showing enough feistiness as Maureen. He approached Ellen Dolan about returning to the role. Ellen considered it, but they had to be discreet, since she and Ellen Parker lived on the same block, or something like that. Anyway, Ellen Parker found out, and she went to talk to him in his office, basically saying, "If you want to see feisty I can do it!" and they worked it out.

You had it right the first time, Carl: it's "Willmore."

Once again, though, Ellen Parker got the last laugh on everyone: she walked away with the Emmy.