3 hours ago, Contessa Donatella said:

Him & MADD together as a power couple & the pair of them WRT Zaslow

MZ daughter on the Locher Room gave the impression that she wanted to call out Les Moonves, Mary Alice Dwyer-Dobbin, and Paul Rauch and put them on blast for what went down w/ MZ but she held herself back.

7 minutes ago, kalbir said:

MZ daughter on the Locher Room gave the impression that she wanted to call out Les Moonves, Mary Alice Dwyer-Dobbin, and Paul Rauch and put them on blast for what went down w/ MZ but she held herself back.

I wish she had!!!! They certainly warranted it. My only consolation is that he sued them & they settled out of court. I have no idea what kind of loot he got but I hope it was a huge amount.

 It was reported in the soap press that Frank Beaty was dressed to look like JFP but I wouldn't have gotten that if it had not been written about. Michael Logan certainly reported on it and reported on it with glee.

In another Locher interview, James Harmon Brown said that Paul Rauch had been finally convinced to let Michael Zaslow tell his ALS story through Roger, but the network would not okay it. I don't know how true it is because then Rauch would then side with the network later in the press when all that awful stuff happened. I wonder if the network/MADD wanted Fiona Hutchison fired. Liz Keifer would drop these cryptic remarks but not give these full story, so this one had me intrigued. 

Edited April 11Apr 11 by chrisml

You want to edit it while you can It's ALS not ASL.

OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG.....my Holy Grail got posted!!!! Billy returning after Eli put the bomb in his car!!

**twirls**

1 hour ago, Contessa Donatella said:

I'm having the world's worst case of deja vu. I feel like I've read this specific post before.

It is the most uncomfortable feeling. I'm sure you can imagine. Really awful.

Funny, I'm having deja vu, too. Of people who needlessly try to stir the pot on message boards. 

It is the most uncomfortable feeling. I'm sure you can imagine. Really awful.

 

1 hour ago, Spoon said:

Names can always be changed.   😆  Remember when Michelle's original name was Berta, named after grandma Bert.  Danny Santos was named Denny during his first few weeks.  Zack Spaulding was originally named after Alan, this was after Alan had a heart attack.  Nola's daughter Anastasia was originally named Kelly when se was trying to pass her off as Kelly Nelson's daughter.

Rick was once Freddy!

In the moment they want to honor some character who is old or died, but then they are like, "No, you can't have a soap hero or heroine with that name!" So they change it.

I remember Douglas Marland complaining in soap mags when they changed Kelly Louise to Stacy. He had a strange fondness for double names (Lesley Ann, Kelly Louise, Alan Michael). The one name they never changed that they should have was Alan Michael. Poor character lumbered with a name that sounds like a pair of shoes being thrown down some stairs. Though I have no ideas for what they could have called him instead. 

2 hours ago, DRW50 said:

 

Thanks. I don't remember this blizzard, admittedly I was barely watching for large parts of 93 due to most of my favorite cast members leaving.

If it's what I'm thinking of, it's Bridget/Kat/David/Hart/Dylan at the boarding house, Mindy throwing a sledding party where Eve ends up cutting up pictures of Mindy&Nick, and AlanMichael and Blake winding up at the Bauer cabin and screwing, and getting caught by Eleni, which enables her to blackmail him into a divorce. To say it's a nothing-burger is kind of generous.

28 minutes ago, Mitch64 said:

Yes, that was the main cause..Fiona vocally supported Zaz and went to the events for him including the OLTL events. Also, she got bored when they turned her into a soccer mom by once again sacrificing a good female character on the altar of Buzz Cooper. Now which came first, who knows, did Rauch retaliate by putting her in the back of scenes "Blowing up balloons for the Bauer BBQ" as Fiona put it. I have no idea why they just did not write both Buzz and her out then, other then to get that weird soap writer producer thrill of taking out what you think of the actor on the character...(okay, well I admit I would give Buzz an hilariously long death so that Deas could chew his last pieces of scenery..."gahhh, ha..." are waving, spit flying..."Im going...going..Im not gone yet..bahh, gahhh!" and then he would float to heaven and Nadine and Jenna would be there look at him and say..."Uh, not so much.") 

Thanks. 

They really did seem to give up on Jenna after she and Buzz reunited. So her activism for Zaslow may have been the reason. 

Jenna was never much of a character, but Fiona had a natural spark which left as soon as she was paired with Buzz. I know Fiona enjoyed working with him, and I'm glad, but much as I grew to tolerate them, there was something, anything else to do with her.

Maybe have her get involved with Matt, in a money scheme if not romantically, to cause some tension with Vanessa.

Just now, P.J. said:

If it's what I'm thinking of, it's Bridget/Kat/David/Hart/Dylan at the boarding house, Mindy throwing a sledding party where Eve ends up cutting up pictures of Mindy&Nick, and AlanMichael and Blake winding up at the Bauer cabin and screwing, and getting caught by Eleni, which enables her to blackmail him into a divorce. To say it's a nothing-burger is kind of generous.

Thanks. 

Curlee must have been the writer interested in Alan-Michael and Blake as I can't remember if they ever interact much after she goes.

30 minutes ago, DeeVee said:

 

I remember Douglas Marland complaining in soap mags when they changed Kelly Louise to Stacy. He had a strange fondness for double names (Lesley Ann, Kelly Louise, Alan Michael). The one name they never changed that they should have was Alan Michael. Poor character lumbered with a name that sounds like a pair of shoes being thrown down some stairs. Though I have no ideas for what they could have called him instead. 

Guiding Light had this fixation on reusing names. 

Alan-Michael 

Harlan Billy (giving us HB, Billy, Bill and Bill's son presumably HB IV)

Marah--combining Josh and Reva's mothers (Martha and Sarah)

Hope Santos (Michelle and Danny's daughter)

Michelle (for whatever reason being named after Mike)

Henry Cooper Bradshaw (and Henry Lewis, who Marina had named for uncle Coop)

Phillip and Harley's son is Alan-something and they called him Zach

Cassie named her son Roger Joshua (which why she'd name him after the father Hart hated, I don't know)

Vanessa named her daughter Maureen

Peter (Thorpe Lewis) Reardon---Peter was Hart's given first name

Shayne (Good Lord, in case we EVER forgot Reva was a Shayne)

Rick (named Frederick for Papa Bauer)

William (Edward) Bauer aka Ed

Lizzie was Elizabeth Lillian, IIRC

Anthony James Chamberlain (AJ or the infamous J)...and I'm probably forgetting more than a few others.

 

I mean, I get some of them, but it's like the writers just didn't want to step outside the box. I do disagree with Marland on renaming Kelly Louise  Stacey. It signaled the end of Nola's obsession with Kelly. It was always kind of creepy that she picked that name.

 

 

1 hour ago, DeeVee said:

I remember Douglas Marland complaining in soap mags when they changed Kelly Louise to Stacy. He had a strange fondness for double names (Lesley Ann, Kelly Louise, Alan Michael). The one name they never changed that they should have was Alan Michael. Poor character lumbered with a name that sounds like a pair of shoes being thrown down some stairs. Though I have no ideas for what they could have called him instead. 

I liked Alan-Michael. It always made him seem a bit immature and like he had a foot in two worlds, which is something the show never did enough with.

Keeping Kelly Louise would have been dumb because she was named that partly down to Nola being fixated on Kelly. I wonder if Marland was still upset he never got to pair them properly.

1 hour ago, DeeVee said:

Funny, I'm having deja vu, too. Of people who needlessly try to stir the pot on message boards. 

It is the most uncomfortable feeling. I'm sure you can imagine. Really awful.tead. 

I don't know what is going on with you, nor do I really care, but if this is your way of trying to make life difficult for me, or get in some kind of dig, i assure you this is the least effective slam ever, in the whole world. Thanks for playing. You can pick up your complimentary swag as you leave. And may your leaving be soon & final.

25 minutes ago, Contessa Donatella said:

I don't know what is going on with you, nor do I really care, but if this is your way of trying to make life difficult for me, or get in some kind of dig, i assure you this is the least effective slam ever, in the whole world. Thanks for playing. You can pick up your complimentary swag as you leave. And may your leaving be soon & final.

I'm LMAO!  LOL.  You, my dear, have a way with words.  Great sense of humor.  Keep it up...

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1 hour ago, DRW50 said:

I liked Alan-Michael. It always made him seem a bit immature and like he had a foot in two worlds, which is something the show never did enough with.

Keeping Kelly Louise would have been dumb because she was named that partly down to Nola being fixated on Kelly. I wonder if Marland was still upset he never got to pair them properly.

2 hours ago, DeeVee said:

I remember Douglas Marland complaining in soap mags when they changed Kelly Louise to Stacy. He had a strange fondness for double names (Lesley Ann, Kelly Louise, Alan Michael). The one name they never changed that they should have was Alan Michael. Poor character lumbered with a name that sounds like a pair of shoes being thrown down some stairs. Though I have no ideas for what they could have called him instead. 

I really like Alan-Michael too.  I'm in August 1995 right now and Susan Bates arrived, and Nick/Susan/AM/Lucy are starting to pal around now.  During this time, Nick has purposefully called AM 'Michael' twice now, and each time AM asks him why he's doing it, and Nick said he shouldn't be reminded of his horrible father by using Alan.  AM reluctantly agrees and says Nick can keep calling him Michael... we'll see how long this lasts, but sounds like it gets dropped if AM continued to be AM for y'all  

10 minutes ago, alwaysAMC said:

I really like Alan-Michael too.  I'm in August 1995 right now and Susan Bates arrived, and Nick/Susan/AM/Lucy are starting to pal around now.  During this time, Nick has purposefully called AM 'Michael' twice now, and each time AM asks him why he's doing it, and Nick said he shouldn't be reminded of his horrible father by using Alan.  AM reluctantly agrees and says Nick can keep calling him Michael... we'll see how long this lasts, but sounds like it gets dropped if AM continued to be AM for y'all  

LOL...no Spaulding wanna-be is going to rename Hope's son, even if Hell froze over.

Alan-Michael may sound clunky to people at first...but it grows on you. If you want to pity a kid (other than little Freddy...), consider the case of Little Billy Lewis, who put a stop to that himself around age 9. 

Edited April 11Apr 11 by P.J.

Does anyone remember a character played by Annabelle Gurwitch? She's listed as playing Gina Daniels. In her book, she says she played the part off and on for three years.