16 minutes ago, Contessa Donatella said:

The PGP SoapClassic collection that Roger Newcomb curated?

Yes.

17 minutes ago, Contessa Donatella said:

Talk about your really egregious errors! Not knowing the show is years off the air. 

To be fair to her, other than some rare guest stints on Y&R she's been out of soaps for a long time and mostly busy in horror. She probably just never had the interest to look.

That she was offered the role flat out without an audition explains a lot about them not seeing how miscast she was. Another JFP failure.

2 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

That she was offered the role flat out without an audition explains a lot about them not seeing how miscast she was. Another JFP failure.

The gift that keeps on giving ...

In looking up Barbara Crampton's tenure on GL, I found an L.A. Times article dated May 7, 1995. IT announces her departure from the show. That was not the interesting part. It's the tidbit underneath about Jay Hammer that amused me. Does anyone know the writing team he refers to?

On 3/26/2025 at 12:43 PM, chrisml said:

As we've all discussed before, Marcy Walker was hired to save JFP's job. JFP had no plans for her, and Walker never forgave her for the way she was treated. Her costars were equally baffled by her treatment. I think Long was there for a little of Walker's tenure but I'm not sure (my knowledge of post-Maureen's death GL is spotty). She was certainly there for all the workplace mistreatment that was going on during the time that McKinsey quit. She knew what JFP was like and what went down with those workplace meetings. 

 

Marcy could have made a good Amanda Spaulding recast.  Amanda had ties with many people still on the GL canvas at the time - Ross, Vanessa, Josh and the Spauldings, of course ... and Walker could have been paired in a story with Zaslow as a romantic interest.   

If they were interested in reopening old stories long buried, Walker could have played Ken Norris' daughter Emily Norris, re-energizing the characters of Emily's aunt Holly and cousin Blake, exploring different avenues for her to follow: Roger, Ed, Ross, Rick, later Phillip.   

Whether or not anyone likes these suggestions, I've given it more thought than JFP did. 

Walker's treatment at GL was embarrassing to watch.   

 

I wonder if JFP had a friend in mind for 1993 Mindy recast but the friend was either not available or not interested. I suspected a similar situation a year later for Alan recast, Friend of Jill either not available or not interested.

We know of four Friends of Jill incidents (Vincent Irizarry, Justin Deas, Marcy Walker, Marj Dusay) and two new Friends of Jill (Mark Derwin, Sonia Satra).

1 hour ago, kalbir said:

I wonder if JFP had a friend in mind for 1993 Mindy recast but the friend was either not available or not interested. I suspected a similar situation a year later for Alan recast, Friend of Jill either not available or not interested.

We know of four Friends of Jill incidents (Vincent Irizarry, Justin Deas, Marcy Walker, Marj Dusay) and two new Friends of Jill (Mark Derwin, Sonia Satra).

I did not know VI was thus afflicted. This makes me sad. 

 

1 hour ago, chrisml said:

In looking up Barbara Crampton's tenure on GL, I found an L.A. Times article dated May 7, 1995. IT announces her departure from the show. That was not the interesting part. It's the tidbit underneath about Jay Hammer that amused me. Does anyone know the writing team he refers to?

well, then Crampton was there for two years. I believe her first episode is May 1st '93. I know she did have scenes with Jordan before he exited that year.

I think what Hammer's referring to is Reva's shower when she was pregnant with Marah. So Sheri Anderson. I don't blame them---I'd have liked to shut Fletcher up multiple times too.

 

1 hour ago, tonymidnight said:

Marcy could have made a good Amanda Spaulding recast.  Amanda had ties with many people still on the GL canvas at the time - Ross, Vanessa, Josh and the Spauldings, of course ... and Walker could have been paired in a story with Zaslow as a romantic interest.   

If they were interested in reopening old stories long buried, Walker could have played Ken Norris' daughter Emily Norris, re-energizing the characters of Emily's aunt Holly and cousin Blake, exploring different avenues for her to follow: Roger, Ed, Ross, Rick, later Phillip.   

Whether or not anyone likes these suggestions, I've given it more thought than JFP did. 

Walker's treatment at GL was embarrassing to watch.   

Marcy as Amanda is a great idea.

33 minutes ago, Contessa Donatella said:

I did not know VI was thus afflicted. This makes me sad. 

Vincent Irizarry was on Santa Barbara when JFP was there and his return to GL was the same week JFP took over as EP.

4 minutes ago, kalbir said:

Vincent Irizarry was on Santa Barbara when JFP was there and his return to GL was the same week JFP took over as EP.

Exactly. Irizarry managed to escape the FOJ label which was good for him. She didn't do him any favors on Santa Barbara so perhaps that helped as well. His storylines on SB were not great although he did met his first wife and Annie #2, Signy Coleman. 

1 minute ago, chrisml said:

Exactly. Irizarry managed to escape the FOJ label which was good for him. She didn't do him any favors on Santa Barbara so perhaps that helped as well. His storylines on SB were not great although he did met his first wife and Annie #2, Signy Coleman. 

VI doesn't like it when people refer to his romantic entanglement with her. When 

Digest covered their story along with some similar, VI pitched a fit - and he was quite serious!!! 

Invoked their children & what would they think if they read this some day. I seem to have misplaced  my tongue-in-cheek emoji. Oh my.

15 minutes ago, kalbir said:

Vincent Irizarry was on Santa Barbara when JFP was there and his return to GL was the same week JFP took over as EP.

I wasn't doubting you. i simply had not thought about it. 

2 hours ago, tonymidnight said:

Whether or not anyone likes these suggestions, I've given it more thought than JFP did. 

👏👏👏👏 Best line I've read today!!!

10 hours ago, tonymidnight said:

That particular period of GL - the Jennifer Richards trial - was very different from Marland's '82 GL.   You could feel Harding Lemay's touch as '81 GL is very much like Lemay's AW.  Lemay was part of the writing team during this period.  

Lemay was a script writer for a few months in 81. Probably wrote 1 or 2 scripts per week until he moved over to head write the doctors. His dialog was always terrible on AW. I doubt he had much influence over GL since Marland didn't share head writing duties. 

15 minutes ago, VelekaCarruthers said:

Lemay was a script writer for a few months in 81. Probably wrote 1 or 2 scripts per week until he moved over to head write the doctors. His dialog was always terrible on AW. I doubt he had much influence over GL since Marland didn't share head writing duties. 

Possibly important to remember that Marland was Pete's only protege.

The writing legacy goes like this: Irna to Pete, Pete to Douglas, Douglas to Mulcahey. Sadly, there it ends.

Also, Irna/Pete was not like Irna & Agnes or either like Irna to Bill Bell. Irna was tasked with teaching how to write a soap by P&G, Pete did not revere her like her more real usual proteges.

One more thing, agree to disagree about dialog by Pete at AW.  Me, I very much liked his words.

 

 

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10 hours ago, P.J. said:

I think what Hammer's referring to is Reva's shower when she was pregnant with Marah. So Sheri Anderson. I don't blame them---I'd have liked to shut Fletcher up multiple times too.

Ha....like Hammer didn't like getting the attention. I never understood whey they kept Fletcher, they should have sent him off with Maeve. Oh Marion, you had a whole line up of annoying characters to kill in addition to Deenie, Buzz and Fletcher!

That video is weird that it shows PS being...happy, and I forgot the nice Dad/Son chemistry he and MOL had...before PS had to purse his lips in every scene and Oleary had to do his schtick.

If you play Strands on the New York Times site, you might find today's puzzle intriguing.

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