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26 minutes ago, Contessa Donatella said:

Buzz could be very sexy & he was always attuned to women, even more than men. 

Justin could be sexy. But as written, there was nothing Vanessa would've been attracted to in Buzz. 

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10 hours ago, cassadine1991 said:

Was Jeff Ryder really that horrible of a HW???

Years ago, Nancy Curlee did an interview where she said something to the extent of Ryder not getting the credit for things he should've, and got blamed for things he shouldn't have. She, unfortunately, didn't elaborate 

27 minutes ago, P.J. said:

Justin could be sexy. But as written, there was nothing Vanessa would've been attracted to in Buzz. 

Even though Olivia was?

1 hour ago, robbwolff said:

And getting back to another post. Eve Guthrie was pregnant in 1995? I wasn't watching regularly at that point and didn't realize she was pregnant.

I'm laughing. I thought you were about to say that Eve Guthrie quietly went crazy! 🤔🙄😉😜🤣🤣🤣 Don't give me that look. She did!

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19 minutes ago, Contessa Donatella said:

Even though Olivia was?

I'm laughing. I thought you were about to say that Eve Guthrie quietly went crazy! 🤔🙄😉😜🤣🤣🤣 Don't give me that look. She did!

A) Olivia certainly wasn't Vanessa and B ) by the time that happened, Buzz had at least matured somewhat.

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44 minutes ago, bboy875 said:

Years ago, Nancy Curlee did an interview where she said something to the extent of Ryder not getting the credit for things he should've, and got blamed for things he shouldn't have. She, unfortunately, didn't elaborate 

What ever happened to Jeff Ryder?

6 minutes ago, P.J. said:

A) Olivia certainly wasn't Vanessa and B ) by the time that happened, Buzz had at least matured somewhat.

Also though what about Fiona Hutchisons's character, whatever the heck her name was. 

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If that character had been better handled (and maybe cast with a more exciting actor), a pairing with Vanessa and Sid Dickerson could have been interesting. They were from very different worlds, and maybe Vanessa could have gotten involved with criminal justice after everything that happened with Billy. I know P&G wouldn't have gone for it though.

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28 minutes ago, Contessa Donatella said:

Also though what about Fiona Hutchisons's character, whatever the heck her name was. 

Jenna was a con artist/jewel thief. She and Buzz had plenty in common. Vanessa was an accomplished, sophisicated woman. It was bad enough when they stuck her with the ex-gigolo.

Just now, P.J. said:

Jenna was a con artist/jewel thief. She and Buzz had plenty in common. Vanessa was an accomplished, sophisicated woman. It was bad enough when they stuck her with the ex-gigolo.

Okay, I get it. And it was a harder proposition to come up with fella for Vanessa, which harkens back to why someone should have been cast specifically with her in mind.

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32 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

If that character had been better handled (and maybe cast with a more exciting actor), a pairing with Vanessa and Sid Dickerson could have been interesting. They were from very different worlds, and maybe Vanessa could have gotten involved with criminal justice after everything that happened with Billy. I know P&G wouldn't have gone for it though.

At least that might've been interesting. Sid had ambition. But yeah, P&G sure wasn't going there. 

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1 hour ago, cassadine1991 said:

What ever happened to Jeff Ryder?

Ryder was later a dean and program director at the recently closed University of the Arts in Philadelphia.

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10 hours ago, cassadine1991 said:

What ever happened to Jeff Ryder?

For many years, he taught at the University of the Arts in Philadelphia.  However, I think he is retired.

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Here's Ryder's Linkedin profile.  Some interesting tidbits

Although he lists his first GL stint as being three years long, he was out in June 86. Perhaps, P&G had to pay him for the remaining six months but in those days most writers worked on 13 week cycles. I doubt he had to power in his first HW gig to demand six months i.e. like McTavish claims she had in her second/third AMC tenures.

He combines in 1990 return to soaps (which was actually Nov 89 to GL) in one entry. I believe he returned to GL when Jones left as Long's other co head (along with Curlee) to do Tribes. Long got sole billing but he was listed above Curlee as co head for three months then was listed above the script writers (in what would be a script editor position in title cards) for several weeks before his name disappeared in April 90 I think.  On Loving he was listed as Walsh's co head from the first week of Jan 92 to October 92 then Walsh was sole head until Jan 93. 

My sense was that Ryder came up with big plot ideas to overlay Pam's romance storytelling. I thought he and Walsh were doing well on Loving but I recall Grainger didn't like them.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeff-ryder-34b80733/

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14 hours ago, robbwolff said:

As P.J. said, Alan-Michael did think that Eleni was pregnant with his child. The child, Marina, was later aged and in a major case of ick factor, Alan-Michael and Marina hooked up around 2006-07. What were Wheeler and Kreizman thinking with such trash?

And getting back to another post. Eve Guthrie was pregnant in 1995? I wasn't watching regularly at that point and didn't realize she was pregnant.

Ohh that is ick, but GL seems to be ok with having different generations hook up, I'm noticing haha.  I wonder if Frank or Eleni were ok with this :P 

Yep!  March 1995 she was pregnant, although my guess is that she'll lose the baby.  Ed and Eve were leaving the hospital to get married at the courthouse and she collapsed (that's where I'm at now), so it seems like she's having complications.

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