38 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

Did any of you read that Lorelei book?

No, I cringed through Oakdale Confidential, that was bad enough.

19 minutes ago, Khan said:

To me, that book was radioactive.

That should be on the jacket.

19 minutes ago, P.J. said:

No, I cringed through Oakdale Confidential, that was bad enough.

3 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

That should be on the jacket.

LOL!!

So, there's a thread going on right now about soap set feuds, and people are spilling the tea.

It turns out Beverlee McKinsey really disliked Michael Zaslow and they hated working together.

I was so shocked by this, I hunted down the interview, and yeah, IT'S TRUE.

(It's a corker of an interview, btw, Bev also tells what happened when she walked out on GL).

This is the first page with the GL exit story:

https://www.soapoperadigest.com/content/wanted-gls-beverlee-mckinsey-0/

And this one has the part where she talks about not liking MZ:

https://www.soapoperadigest.com/content/wanted-gls-beverlee-mckinsey-page-2-0/

ALSO INTERESTING: she names being on the island with Fletcher as one of her favorite storylines. Apparently, she was good friends with Jay Hammer.

I don't know. I was never a fan of Alex and Fletch together. I don't remember them being popular with the audience. Amazing the different opinions actors can have from the audience.

Edited 6 hours ago6 hr by DeeVee

Well, Bev and Michael didn't let it show onscreen. Whether it was just a personality thing or not, I wouldn't blame Bev for not liking the Alex/Roger storyline. I can't imagine Bev liked the idea of Alex being led into so many bad life choices.

As for liking the story with Fletch... it was probably a change of pace for her. I guess that's a reason to like it. :)

11 minutes ago, P.J. said:

Well, Bev and Michael didn't let it show onscreen. Whether it was just a personality thing or not, I wouldn't blame Bev for not liking the Alex/Roger storyline. I can't imagine Bev liked the idea of Alex being led into so many bad life choices.

Oh, I hated it. I couldn't believe Alex would be dumb enough to be taken in by Roger. (Well, she was dumb enough to be taken in by Simon, but that story was so ridiculous in so many ways).

13 minutes ago, P.J. said:

As for liking the story with Fletch... it was probably a change of pace for her. I guess that's a reason to like it. :)

That was a consistent problem for Alex/Bev--they never found a good romantic pairing for her. Which is wild to me, they never had that problem on AW or Texas. She liked Jay, and probably liked that they seemed kind of mismatched. But the whole point of the island story was to reintroduce Roger.

14 minutes ago, DeeVee said:

Oh, I hated it. I couldn't believe Alex would be dumb enough to be taken in by Roger. (Well, she was dumb enough to be taken in by Simon, but that story was so ridiculous in so many ways).

That was a consistent problem for Alex/Bev--they never found a good romantic pairing for her. Which is wild to me, they never had that problem on AW or Texas. She liked Jay, and probably liked that they seemed kind of mismatched. But the whole point of the island story was to reintroduce Roger.

I could understand Alex being attracted to Roger, to a point. And it seems to be a pattern for Alex, being attracted to users like Roger, Warren and Eric. But it got very uncomfortable, watching everyone in her life try and warn her and her ignoring them because Roger was apparently that and a bag of chips in bed.

Was there really a serious love interest for Alex? Fletch and Alex might've worked, had Jay been an actor with more gravitas. As it was, it was sort of like pairing Bette Davis with Jim Nabors.

8 minutes ago, P.J. said:

I could understand Alex being attracted to Roger, to a point. And it seems to be a pattern for Alex, being attracted to users like Roger, Warren and Eric. But it got very uncomfortable, watching everyone in her life try and warn her and her ignoring them because Roger was apparently that and a bag of chips in bed.

Was there really a serious love interest for Alex? Fletch and Alex might've worked, had Jay been an actor with more gravitas. As it was, it was sort of like pairing Bette Davis with Jim Nabors.

I thought Beverlee and Jay had chemistry, but I also got the sense that most of the writing for Fletcher and Alex emphasized how they could never work together. He was more of the man who would never be part of her world, and loudly had to tell her that, even if he did care about her. It made sense to me that they were only together at the very end of the show when she had no reason to obsess about the Spauldings anymore.

It was long forgotten, but during the John Bolger era-- Reva and Phillip were friends.

I'm kinda surprised she didn't have e a strong friendship with Danny. They seemed like they'd get along well. Reva's the type who could've used a "gay" or "gay-coded" male bestie, like Henry to Katie on ATWT. Either that or a height-impaired character like Wallingford on AW.

Also, its probably more realistic for Reva not to have close-friends but friendly acquaintances like Holly, Lillian, Harley. I'm the same way, I don't really have close "friends" but I have plenty of friendly acquaintances via work or social media.

Edited 4 hours ago4 hr by Spoon

1 minute ago, Spoon said:

It was long forgotten, but during the John Bolger era-- Reva and Phillip were friends.

The show seemed to lose interest in male/female friendships by the '90s, aside from Alex and Buzz for a while (Bridget and David were spoilt by having him fall in love with her). I'm glad Reva and Philip got to have a scene together when he returned from the dead.

@DeeVee It's entirely plausible and expected for Alex to fall for someone like Roger Thorpe since she didn't obtain mental health nor truly deal with the trauma. Reasons why it's plausible.

History of control and coercion: Having no autonomy over her life due to her father and being forced to give up her child.

Vulnerability to charm: Denied love and nurturing in her formative years in a healthy way, a charming man like Roger Thorpe would give her validation that he sees her true worth so it would make ignore all rational warnings.

Over-correction: She was controlled and had choices taken from her, so she doubles down on her decision to marry Roger.. so even if Fletcher and her family is giving her sound advice.. she's still governed by her past trauma with Brandon and refuses to listen/be controlled like that again.

Repeat past situations: Roger and his bad reputation satisfied within Alex the familiarity of her upbringing. It follows patterns she was familiar with even though she didn't enjoy them.. they're imprinted in her.

Edited 1 hour ago1 hr by Soaplovers

3 hours ago, Spoon said:

It was long forgotten, but during the John Bolger era-- Reva and Phillip were friends.

There were episodes where Reva/Phillip talked on the phone in 1989 right around Blake and Phillip's wedding where they remarked how much they missed one another.. even discussed why they were no longer friends.. and it all stemmed from Alan (i.e. when Reva was dating Alan.. and I think Phillip used Reva to help him take Spaulding away from Alan).

And in November 1989, Alex and Reva had that one on one where Alex confided in Reva about Phillip being commited to a mental hospital and Reva being sympathetic to Alex especially once she heard he had tried to dig up Beth's grave because he believe she was alive (this was before it was discovered that Beth's grave was empty). The way Zimmer played her reactions were on point.. especially when hearing it was due to Beth.. since the two were probably friends when Beth was persumed dead.. and Lillian was dating Hawk at the time as well.

16 minutes ago, Soaplovers said:

and I think Phillip used Reva to help him take Spaulding away from Alan)

He set her up! It was a very sh!tty thing he did to her. It had to do with some phony emerald mine. Alan ended up blaming her and believing she colluded with Phillip to get him out of Spaulding.

Of course we need to keep in mind this happened during the writers strike. The scabs totally trashed Phillip's relationship with both Reva and Chelsea.

I think if they had never brought back Roger, Phillip would have ended up married to Chelsea and then Beth would have been brought back.

The strike and Bernau's exit caused a lot of storylines to veer off in strange directions. One of the casualties was Phillip and Reva's friendship.