I don't know why everyone thinks Victoria Rowell is going to come in and be the great savior of Y&R...I give her three episodes before the complaints start about another botched return from the dead story (the third in a year!), how she's not written in character (this isn't the Dru I remember!), how her storyline isn't going on anywhere (they can't write for black characters!, and how she's used too much and everyone's sick of her (Billy Miller syndrome! Remember when he was Y&R's great hope for salvation?)

I also think she's vastly overrated. Judith Chapman is understated compared to the scenery chewing Rowell does.

I got your botched return story right now, people. Dru returns with a secret white family which she has maintained for twenty years behind Neil's back. She carries the fetus of one such unborn child in a prop that has been on the Winters house set for a decade, indicating deep story continuity. Somehow no one noticed the smell. When questioned about this shocking deception, Dru cracks her gum and rolls her eyes at people with a heavy sigh.

Unbeknownst to everyone, Adam and Dru's mixed-race kid have begun conspiring together, as they are both psychotic and experiencing visions in which Dru's fetus comes to life and talks to them as an elaborate CGI puppet with the voice of Judith Chapman. Melody Thomas Scott will be fired yet again to pay for this CGI effect, in a story in which Nikki drowns in the same spot as Brad and Colleen.

Bring me my royalty money in a golden chariot driven by a unicorn.

Edited September 17, 200916 yr by Vee

I got your botched return story right now, people. Dru returns with a secret white family which she has maintained for twenty years behind Neil's back. She carries the fetus of one such unborn child in a prop that has been on the Winters house set for a decade, indicating deep story continuity. Somehow no one noticed the smell. When questioned about this shocking deception, Dru cracks her gum and rolls her eyes at people with a heavy sigh.

Unbeknownst to everyone, Adam and Dru's mixed-race kid have begun conspiring together, as they are both psychotic and experiencing visions in which Dru's fetus comes to life and talks to them as an elaborate CGI puppet with the voice of Judith Chapman. Melody Thomas Scott will be fired yet again to pay for this CGI effect, in a story in which Nikki drowns in the same spot as Brad and Colleen.

Bring me my royalty money in a golden chariot driven by a unicorn.

:lol: :lol:

Eh, sounds like something that would happen on the current incarnation of Y&R too.

Eh, sounds like something that would happen on the current incarnation of Y&R too.

You catch on quick.

Um excuse me, since when do you know anything about Ria's "investments" and "savings?"

How do you know how much money she has? How do you know she didn't pay for her home in cash? Were you there? Do you work for her banking center?

And better yet, how do you know she's desperate for work? She's simply REPLYING to her fans and what THEY want. I think she's being melodramatic about it, but replying to your fans about the cockblockers at Y&R is not a desperate chant for work.

For all you know, she could have been offered roles that she turned down because she didn't feel like she was right for the role or because she feels like movie/TV roles for black actresses are either minstrel shows(i.e. Tyler Perry) or Glorified Under 5's.

If it IS true that Rowell held up taping on numerous occassions with diva-like antics, then I can see why they wouldn't want her back and I fully support that. And that will probably be the way Maria spins it to Nelson in their next "Come to Jesus Juice" meeting.

Pretty much.

Is Christel Khalil's cooter made of platinum, antimatter and pure uncut cocaine? Exactly why do they think this young woman is so valuable and irreplaceable? "She's just white enough! If we squint it looks like she's just got a tan!" All they got is her and uh, Neil, and Devon, who just fucked Eva Marcille and has that thing on his head that makes him look like RoboCop without the helmet. This is supposed to be a black canvas? When OLTL has Y&R, Y&R beat on black representation, you know it's a bad, bad scene. Y&R's black setup was, IMO, one of its major strengths in the ratings game.

I'm not saying Victoria Rowell isn't coming off a little, um, crazy. And I'm not saying I think Y&R would do fine without Bergman and Stafford, because I don't, I think losing Jack and Phyllis would hurt the show bad right now. But I think the bottom line is [!@#$%^&*] has to be locked down, people have to be told what's what and learn to work together as professionals again - all three veterans. Because they have proven they cannot uphold a black canvas of their previous standard without Rowell, who is a force unto herself. It's starting to look like Paul Rauch's Llanview up in there, like Devon and Neil are Troy and Kerry Nichols or something, ready to do the Gulf War rap. They're just lucky OLTL has not used good sense enough to hire her ass, because any soap that took Victoria Rowell away from Y&R would gain something very serious, if they knew how to promote it. Unfortunately, daytime still seems afraid to properly promote black stars. Occasionally over the years AMC and Y&R have known what to do. Not so anymore. Maybe we've regressed a little as a country. I know Y&R has regressed as a show.

Amen!

There's been a hole in the Winters family ever since Dru went off that cliff. She's the catalyst for reaction in that family, without her, there's no real drama. She brings the drama. Though, had they known what the hell to do with that family instead of treating them like a bunch of tokens, the impact of Dru's loss wouldn't be as serve as it is currently.

That said, I don't want another botched return, and I have no faith in the current group of Y&R writers. If they have to craft a return story, I'd hope they would consult with someone that wrote for the character for years, like Kay Alden or Jack F. Smith.

But looks like that isn't even necessary...

Edited September 17, 200916 yr by Y&RWorldTurner

I have no faith in the current group of Y&R writers

Collen's death is proof of that.

Edited September 17, 200916 yr by DeeeDee

I don't know why everyone thinks Victoria Rowell is going to come in and be the great savior of Y&R...I give her three episodes before the complaints start about another botched return from the dead story (the third in a year!), how she's not written in character (this isn't the Dru I remember!), how her storyline isn't going on anywhere (they can't write for black characters!, and how she's used too much and everyone's sick of her (Billy Miller syndrome! Remember when he was Y&R's great hope for salvation?)

I also think she's vastly overrated. Judith Chapman is understated compared to the scenery chewing Rowell does.

She might be overrated but she brought something different to Y&R. Which they are missing. Thge ratings haven't been the same since she went over the cliff. Why they can't try it & see how it goes? They try to revist her through bland Lily but CK is too weak. Then they try through Tyra who needs acting lessons.

I don't see why Rowell, Stafford, Bergman, etc. would need to get together with MAB and work out an amicable agreement. It's not as if Y&R would be suffering any less if Rowell were still on the show. She's not some savior; she ain't no Obama

The only one who continues to make a stink about Rowell returning is Rowell. She's hard-up for a job, burnt too many bridges, and is now trying to crawl her way back. Hanging outside the CBS studios but can't get in? Don't know whether that's tongue-in-cheek or not... regardless, she's just looking pathetic now. Move on, honey. Write your book and foster some more kiddies.

They try to revist her through bland Lily but CK is too weak.

Yep.

I think the whole cast of Y&R acting as tacky ass bitches. I wonder what these bitches going to do when Y&R go the way of GL. Take that you tacky bitches. Not all of ya'll can get cast in prime time or in movies.

Boy, that's for sure. Just ask Rowell! Poor thing is clamoring to get her soap job back. Is Dick van Dyke still alive? Maybe she can resurrect that other CBS role she had.

All I'm saying we don't know what she can do until she allows to come back. These people they have on the scene now isn't doing anything for Y&R either. They had two years to prove that Dru or VR wasn't needed. & look where they are at now.

It could be the writing. But Even if the writing improves. Y&R still missing something.

Boy, that's for sure. Just ask Rowell! Poor thing is clamoring to get her soap job back. Is Dick van Dyke still alive? Maybe she can resurrect that other CBS role she had.

Oh that's suppose to be a joke. I forgot to laugh. Since you don't like VR. You might not catch up on what she have done. you also might not like watching black movies. But she done movies & had a successful Prime Time show something MS can't do. Laugh at that.