But they should have given us more reasons WHY Deacon popped up after all these years just to rape Amber. What are his motivations?

I believe Deacon explained it like this: "You know, I had a lot of time to think while I was getting sober. ... and I realized I missed me. I missed "Playing the game," so to speak, and I definitely missed playing it with my favorite partner."

They clearly do not know how to write for the Scobby gang so they throw anything at them in hoping it sticks, and it never does.

They clearly do not know how to write for the Scobby gang so they throw anything at them in hoping it sticks, and it never does.

Yep. Like it's so hard to write a good old-fashioned love story or a triangle. Plus, if they no longer know how to write for the couple then split them up and pair up with someone else.

I believe Deacon explained it like this: "You know, I had a lot of time to think while I was getting sober. ... and I realized I missed me. I missed "Playing the game," so to speak, and I definitely missed playing it with my favorite partner."

Eh. Weak. One line coming from a character that's basically new to me (I've never followed B&B closely) does not show me much motivation or back story. I need more, Damn it!

They clearly do not know how to write for the Scobby gang so they throw anything at them in hoping it sticks, and it never does.

Yeah, I think you're right. I believe they are all very capable actors/actresses, and given the right material they could carry the story. It's a shame.

Yep. Like it's so hard to write a good old-fashioned love story or a triangle. Plus, if they no longer know how to write for the couple then split them up and pair up with someone else.

I find the character writing on the show to be horrible lately to the point where I no longer feel like I know who any of these characters are. This show it totally plot-driven at the moment, and no I have no problem with plots being explored, but there has to be some balance, and there isn't right now.

Eh. Weak. One line coming from a character that's basically new to me (I've never followed B&B closely) does not show me much motivation or back story. I need more, Damn it!

Yeah, I think you're right. I believe they are all very capable actors/actresses, and given the right material they could carry the story. It's a shame.

Scoobies need to buy an orphaned diseased puppy, nurse him back to health, then proceed to fall into random adventures, due to the puppy's mysterious ability to communicate telepathically with them.

The puppy would work like Charlie on Charlie's Angels: informing them on all of these dangerous missions; but, he secretly despises all of the scoobies and eventually leads them into a premature demise.

Then, the puppy would marry Humphrey and perpetuate Dru's spirit would live on forever. <sigh>

Edited July 27, 200916 yr by rhythmchyc

Ugh, I can't stand anymore Cane propping. So now, Kay forgives him and welcomes him into the family 3 weeks after he was exposed as a fraud? I can take them welcoming back Phillip III, since he's actual family and they missed two decades with him, but his impostor? Really? But I forgot, part of this story is about telling us what a nice guy Cane is and how we need to accept him as part of the family.

Exactly!

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATE.

Is anything else thinking it might not be a bad thing if Lily wasn't allowed to breed?

What about this kid that Lily have takes after his or her grandmother. I mean we can't get anymore vanilla as Lily.

Seems the stories ideas may be generated something like this.

Maria gets a call from Thom Bierdz whose says he would like to come back to the show. She likes him and loves the Chancellors so decides to rewrite P3's death and by the way can clear up that pesky Cane phone call under LML's regime, further prop Cane and the Cane/Lily pairing who apparently are now the show's definition of true love, and bring in a young star from GL they were able to pick up to play P4.

Then the actor playing Deacon has a lunch meeting with Rauch and mentions he is looking for work and asks if Y&R can use him. He says he will let him know and voila, Deacon gets shoehorned into this Amber story probably because Sheffer loves writing for the Scoobies and likes the bad boys.

To give Maria and Rauch the benefit of the doubt, both these actors went through some tough times in their personal lives and maybe they want to give them a second chance. In theory that is nice, but as a fan of vets languishing on the backburner I want some effort put into writing for them before bringing these actors on. Hopefully, they will only be around for short stays.

Exactly. They're both recurring so I hope it mean something. But then again it could mean nothing.

If they listen to their fans, the writers will have to eventually realize that these two are the most hated on the show at the moment.

Monday's ep shows there is still hope!

This time last year,we had Katherine,Jill, Esther and Cane representing the Chancellors.

Today,there was also Murphy,Chloe,Billy,Mac,Phillip,Chance and Nina.

I really enjoyed it,It was classic soap.

Tricia Cast should be given a lifetime contract.She is beyond fabulous!!

There's hope if you are a Chancellor fan. Most of the actors brought on under Bell's regime are connected to the Chancellors. In a way, Lily and Neil are also being connected to the Chancellors now that Jill and Katherine have forgiven Cane and Neil is running CI. Even the Scoobies are more connected to Katherine than their own families. This fall and winter, Katherine acted as surrogate grandmother to both Amber and Kevin.

I see what you're saying. Although rape has been over-used on soaps in the past, I still think a compelling story could be told with Daniel/Amber/Deacon but they are telling it too fast. Rape is very disturbing, but the story can be told intelligently - and has (Roger/Holly, Roger/Rita) in the past. The dynamics are there now on Y&R to have a compelling story with these three. But they should have given us more reasons WHY Deacon popped up after all these years just to rape Amber. What are his motivations? Additionally, even before Daniel was arrested we should have seem some inkling from him that he was thinking marriage to Amber. Then his stint in prison would have been his game-changer and realized how important to him she is. Finally, Amber should have wrestled with the decision to get Daniel out of prison by going to Deacon ALOT longer.

It happened too fast. I think if they would have taken their time with the story that a lot of us would be liking it right now. But now all we see is the rape. It sucks cuz it could a been good.

I bet Deacon doesn't see what he's done as rape. I bet if and when someone says that word to him, he'll be shocked.

Why does everyone think Amber was raped? It was consensual. Deacon blackmailed Amber into sex, and Amber, being AMBER, went along with it. Deacon didn't force himself on her.

Why does everyone think Amber was raped? It was consensual. Deacon blackmailed Amber into sex, and Amber, being AMBER, went along with it. Deacon didn't force himself on her.

Exactly. He blackmailed her. How is that consensual? He used force, it just wasn't physical force.

Why does everyone think Amber was raped? It was consensual. Deacon blackmailed Amber into sex, and Amber, being AMBER, went along with it. Deacon didn't force himself on her.

According to the law in most states, any sexual act under duress, like sex under blackmail for example, is considered rape. Not to mention how nasty and demeaning Deacon was in those scenes, forcing her to wear that purple lingerie and yelling at her to get into bed.

But then again, this is the same debate which continues to linger on with DAYS fans in regards to EJ/Sami.

Edited July 28, 200916 yr by Y&RWorldTurner