And P. S. Brothers & Sisters showrunners are (or were) two of the best and mot promising writers that came from that crapfest Charmed, two women who came from academia... But boy, that show, even though it gives me enjoyment, isn't what it was supposed to be when the creator was there.

That's the dumbest thing I have ever read. And the EP and writers think they way you do that's why most of the soaps are in the s h i t s!

Turn on the Ignore function and skip my posts.

And by the way, my post doesn't imply that I favour trash over family drama. Quite the opposite. But familial issues & slow-moving, touching, realistic stories, at this point, will not attract your audience.

I'd take Brittany over Cane any day. ANY day.

Yep.

Someone needs to start the "LET DANIEL GODDARD BE FREE" thread...

Yes!

Y&RWorldTurner, what is David Shaughnessy doing these days?

The family aspect has been neglected on Y&R anyway. The Abbot's are so isolated from one another, and so are the Newman's. The other families don't really exist as a big family unit either. They haven't played upon family dynamics for storylines in qute a while, I'd say.

Edited June 18, 200916 yr by Y&RWorldTurner

The family aspect has been neglected on Y&R anyway. The Abbot's are so isolated from one another, and so are the Newman's. The other families don't really exist as a big family unit either. They haven;t played upon family dynamic for storylines in qute a while, I'd say.

True. But there is one family that exist as a big family unit---the Winters when they all appear in the same episode in some sort of a gathering and then they're not seen for two weeks when they have another gathering (a.k.a isolation).

Oh, please! This show needs a total clean-up: fire the useless actors, break the boring couples, eliminate the art & sensationalism and get your act together, Y&R... Lotta cr*p going on right now.

But Cast/Walton/Cooper... A good reason to watch.

THERE is the difference between me and you. Cast/Walton/Cooper ARE just sensational right now, the SL is keeping me on the edge of my seat, and Haiduk being so good is a bonus. I feel that if the show has PARTS that are fabulous, then the show is fabulous.... I can ignore the parts that I don't like...I've been doing it for 35 damn years now! You seem to think if only part of the show it's good, then it's crap as a whole. Typical pessimist. You rmeind me of my brother, he HATES the network ID bugs in the corner of the screen, so much so that if a movie he wants to see airs on a network that has one, he'll not watch it. He claims he can't enjoy it unless it's PERFECT. Also reminds me of people who'll throw away an apple with a bruise on the side, instead of eating the other half that's good.

Edited June 18, 200916 yr by alphanguy74

The future is lame-a-- artists, supremo douchbag/misogyny, psychos running amok, and Victor having babies when he's 80 apparently...

Look at this DUMB spoiler, it's EXACTLY the type of storytelling that's turning me off this show. The f.ucking quad is so boring and unlikable and way past its prime, yet they're so set on prolonging this sh!t.

http://daytimeconfidential.com/2009/06/18/...stless-spoilers

Mary Jane/Jack/Sharon/Nick/Phyllis: Hell hath no fury like a PR nut job scorned! To get back at Phyllis for sleeping with Jack, Mary Jane poisions Summer!

Meanwhile Sharon gets the results of the paternity test and the baby is Nick's as reported earlier on. She decides to let him know but spots Nick and Phyllis at the hospital in a close moment dealing with Summer and decides to name Jack as the father

THERE is the difference between me and you. Cast/Walton/Cooper ARE just sensational right now, the SL is keeping me on the edge of my seat, and Haiduk being so good is a bonus. I feel that if the show has PARTS that are fabulous, then the show is fabulous.... I can ignore the parts that I don't like...I've been doing it for 35 damn years now! You seem to think is onnly part of the show it's good, then it's crap as a whole. Typical pessimist. You rmeind me of my brother, he HATES the network ID bugs in the corner of the screen, so much so that if a movie he wants to see airs on a network that has one, he'll not watch it. He claims he can't enjoy it unless it's PERFECT. Also reminds me of people who'll throw away an apple with a bruise on the side, instead of eating the other half that's good.

True... One or two bad stories can't ruin a show for me. Last year was even worse... it's only when the entire show is crap (see LML 2007) that I just couldn't watch any longer.

But BACK to today's episode discussion..... wasn't Sharon wearing the ugliest necklace on EARTH???!! Maybe her kleptomania has expanded and she stole Aunt Esther's purse AND her jewelry?!

Look at this DUMB spoiler, it's EXACTLY the type of storytelling that's turning me off this show. The f.ucking quad is so boring and unlikable and way past its prime, yet they're so set on prolonging this sh!t.

It does sound quite stupid.

But BACK to today's episode discussion..... wasn't Sharon wearing the ugliest necklace on EARTH???!! Maybe her kleptomania has expanded and she stole Aunt Esther's purse AND her jewelry?!

Let's not forget Sharon's decorations at the Abbott mansion...

THERE is the difference between me and you. Cast/Walton/Cooper ARE just sensational right now, the SL is keeping me on the edge of my seat, and Haiduk being so good is a bonus. I feel that if the show has PARTS that are fabulous, then the show is fabulous.... I can ignore the parts that I don't like...I've been doing it for 35 damn years now!

Where is the difference here? The difference might be in the epithet: I wouldn't really call it sensational. The stories these are in.

If I am an idealist and want the whole show to be good, with only possible minor annoyances, then that's my problem.

You seem to think if only part of the show it's good, then it's crap as a whole. Typical pessimist.

Oh, please! It's not a part, it's like 95% of this show and more!

You rmeind me of my brother, he HATES the network ID bugs in the corner of the screen, so much so that if a movie he wants to see airs on a network that has one, he'll not watch it. He claims he can't enjoy it unless it's PERFECT. Also reminds me of people who'll throw away an apple with a bruise on the side, instead of eating the other half that's good.

But you fell into a trap. Predictably and easily. I am not a frustrated, mean, pessimistic, annoying, "negative" as people here try to depict me. I can totally deal with that because I don't care what those people say. It's actually amusing.

Me wanting a show to be good does not equal me being neurotic, psychotic and frustrated because it's not perfect. Huge difference.

Edited June 18, 200916 yr by Sylph

It does sound quite stupid.

It's stupid, Sharon tells Jack

he's the father when she sees Nick and Phyllis worrying over Summer when she knows Nick is the real father?

This is crappy plot driven writing that is making Y&R as bad as an ABC soap.

What the hell is there to enjoy in this overdone and vile quad?

Look at this DUMB spoiler, it's EXACTLY the type of storytelling that's turning me off this show. The f.ucking quad is so boring and unlikable and way past its prime, yet they're so set on prolonging this sh!t.

http://daytimeconfidential.com/2009/06/18/...stless-spoilers

Mary Jane/Jack/Sharon/Nick/Phyllis: Hell hath no fury like a PR nut job scorned! To get back at Phyllis for sleeping with Jack, Mary Jane poisions Summer!

Meanwhile Sharon gets the results of the paternity test and the baby is Nick's as reported earlier on. She decides to let him know but spots Nick and Phyllis at the hospital in a close moment dealing with Summer and decides to name Jack as the father

Excuse me while I !

What the hell is there to enjoy in this overdone and vile quad?

I don't know why they're prolonging it, I guess there's just no inspiration there left. We've been harping for months that Phick and Shack must end, but it looks as if that won't happen anytime soon.