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They were complex in the past, but I'm not sure about now. It's going to take plenty of work to make Victoria a viable character again, not just a recast. They may be better off sending her away again until the writing settles down.

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In order for Victoria to blossom, we need some corporate intrigue. That's Victoria's element -- not "Art". One thing I don't get -- why didn't the writers have Adam frame Victoria for Ashley's gaslighting? It would have been a blow to another Newman and created dissension within the family. And why not have JT actually think that Victoria might indeed be capable of doing this? Instant conflict.

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THANK YOU!

HA! Its like a game. Who gets to do it next? By the end of the week who will have used the most? LOL!

Exactly.

I mean, i questioned your hate of the show and you an swered why you still watch. I get it. I like your view. By all means, "clutter" away!

No. Write her off. Or find an unkowen who can handle it.

I do wonder if the lack of commitment fromt he show plays a role in her performance. Im not excusing it at all, actors need to act whats given and do the ebst they can, but...

There are some actors who just have chem with almost anybody. Even ones that are not on the level GT is (Like Kirsten on GH)... but GT can act like hell and has chem with a wall.

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Victoria needs to be rebuilt from the ground up.

hire a greta actress, like Gina T, and then start to strip Viki of everything, statrying with Daddys love. Her and victor have always had this sick twisted love for eachother that freakin creepy. She NEEDS him. have him turn his back on her and her throw herself into work to try and impress him and by doing that put a strain on her marriage to JT, esp with JT still working for Victor. Have JT get fed up and leave her, taking the baby with him.

Then have her have lost it all and turn. Not crazy psychoo cartoon, but like she used to be.

Or something. Anything! Hell make her strong and sassy again and play her as a heavy supporting player in many storylines - The Adam/Ashley one, Nicks life, whatever.

and if not, then just write her off the damn show.

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WOW... I just saw today's eppy FINALLY, and BOY HOWDY.... Cooper, Walton and Cast were ELECTRIC today!!! Damn, I knew these three would be good, but I tell ya.. these bitches are just as good if not better than ANYTHING prime time offers up, be sure of THAT.

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Something does need to be done about Victoria. Ideally, Amelia Heinle would come to work and actually... you know... work. Paul Rauch needs to light a fire under her butt or something because she is capable of greatness, as evidenced in this bitchtastic scene (which STILL gives me goosebumps).

BUT, if Amelia continues to insist on being lazy, a recast is needed, whether it be Tognoni or someone else. Not Heather Tom - she's doing fine on B&B and seems happier there.

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I love Heather Tom, but she's phoning it in like hell at B&B. Yeah, the writing sucks, but after her first year on the show, she's been barely giving a damn with what they've given her on that show. Should she ever come back to Y&R one day, the writing has to be top notch and Heather would have to start caring about acting again.

Amelia's lazyness has been present for a while now, it seems as if she sleepwalks through her scenes. Not only is she miscast and the writing for the character not there, but she's another one that just doesn't care about her performances.

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I think you have a point, especially due to the fact that MTS seems to be really gone for now. :( This is where it hurts the show that HT wasn't in the role all this time. Now whatever they do there is a bigger hole than there needed to be due to the exit of MTS. GT would be my second choice because she could be a fierce Victoria and still bring the sexy. MB could also be a fierce named actress who slips into the Newman matron role. But she would never fit with JT as her husband. That may be a plus though.

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No, it does not. It still manages to do something right, with all of its numerous flaws. Change is needed but if it's nowhere near on the horizon...

Wow, once again I get a nice sleep and wake up to another fight. These threads are just so.... hmmm....

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I feel it's more like being knighted, or at least crowned Miss Universe. LOL.

It was an honor to have been able to do it and add a smiley at the end. I'd like to thank God, and my mother. Because I wouldn't even be here without her.free-sad-smileys-335.gif:lol:

This whole MTS is leaving thing, is this for certain? Was there a new development over the last few days? Oh my Gawd, I'm about to hyperventilate.

And the debate about Heinle is really off-putting because she's not being written as Heather Tom is. I know people say she's incapable of it and she's miscast, yada, yada, yada, but there hasn't been storyline where she's been as formidable as Victor Newman's obstinate, vivacious daughter should be. This is what TPTB want Victoria to be.

So, until I see someone give Heinle a storyline where she stands up to Victor Newman and tells him he's a piece of garbage of a. b. c. and d. rather than pouting about not being with Nikki, then I'll blame Heinle 100%.

Maybe this is retcon #5 on MAB's list... whatever she's up to now LOL.

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I guess there could be a last min save, but I read on another board that she has already taped her last scenes. I know people will laugh at me for saying this, but I can't process MTS's departure. If I give it any real thought I get sick to my stomach. It makes Victoria that much more important. I like Amelia more than most people here, but the current situation cannot continue imo.

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Everyone should be able to say whatever they want. Where this thread sometimes goes AWRY, IMO, is when people comment on the POSTERS and not the POSTS.

As soon as we personalize, it goes to sh!t. I'm not in a glass house...I've done it myself. I'm sorry for that. But if we could just focus on the content and not the context, it would all be much more enjoyable, IMO.

Yup. What I love is that--even though there is all kinds of animosity--when they got to talking about their shared interest (P4 might have Huntingdon's), all three of them INSTANTLY went into moist eye/mutual caring mode. I love that they can so easily access the love JUST UNDERNEATH the anger.

That is a really good observation. Most of the good actors talk about how they work to bring energy and enthusiasm to the little, pedestrian scenes. It's not what you do when you have a showcase...it's what you do when you're a lowly talk-to. Amelia is clearly failing on this latter score.

If she's bored, she'll bore the writers...vicious circle.

I'm sorry, dmarex. It was very nice to have you back this week. I think if we could just commit to not personalizing...commenting on posts, not commenters...all would go better.

ETA: I think MTS is "gone"...like she's been gone before. She's on hiatus while they work out contract stuff. It could be MONTHS.

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