*Slap* Tricia and Sabryn Genet were love when ricia went crazy.

The Dennison girls were awful. Thank Gawd they are long gone.

I feel the obligation to catch up

before Lynn Herring turns up

, but it sure isn't going to be easy.

You dont need to catch up. You havent missed much. Just wait until you know who appears.

But I thought you didn't like all these dark perverse stories?

At least that made sense and we saw years of build-up before it got to that point. Also, I don't mind dark stories, only when there's an overload of them and they don't make sense.

Yes, Tricia's-got-a-gun and Matt-Clark-figment were .... amazing.

But I thought you didn't like all these dark perverse stories?

And I had to suffer through YEARS of those dumb-ass Dennisons before Tricia finally had the decency to go crazy!

Word! Amen! And add boring Tony to the mix...Ugh!!

I can only hope MAB cooks up something that's not plot-driven or art related so that I don't have to read the same, "She doesn't know what she's doing. Where's the Y&R of old gone? Only the Adam/MJ/Phillip storylines are keeping me interested," posts everyday, same time, same damn place.

I'm sure I'll get the, "if you don't like it, hit the ignore button" comments, but, I wish these complaints were rooted in the daily episodes at least. Otherwise, create a new thread and discuss amongst yourselves.

Now if Victoria falls into a coma, will she awaken recasted with a bitchy streak, wonder why the hell she married JT and proceed to begin a heated classic soap opera rivalry with Chloe or Amber or Jana? it's been a while since people have been bitch slapped.

You dont need to catch up. You havent missed much. Just wait until you know who appears.

:wub: You are love. Some how it seems wrong to just watch the good stuff, but I think I'll take your advice. Poor ATWT.

I used to love it so.

Back to the Cane thing, if they overlook stolen identity and the fact that its a federal offense, it really shows their incompetence. Kay and Jill can't simply refuse to press charges in this instance, because it's beyond them. I think Nina will have the good sense to inform the proper authorities.

Back to the Cane thing, if they overlook stolen identity and the fact that its a federal offense, it really shows their incompetence. Kay and Jill can't simply refuse to press charges in this instance, because it's beyond them. I think Nina will have the good sense to inform the proper authorities.

I wouldn't mind seeing Cane go to jail (whatever it takes to get rid of him), but I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't. People get away with crimes all the time on soaps. He hasn't taken any money and he's there at Phillip III's request, so if he does time, I'll be surprised.

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Back to the Cane thing, if they overlook stolen identity and the fact that its a federal offense, it really shows their incompetence. Kay and Jill can't simply refuse to press charges in this instance, because it's beyond them. I think Nina will have the good sense to inform the proper authorities.

It cant be any worse than ATWT with Paul kidnapping a baby and no charges brought against him. At least Y&R isnt being written by Jean Passanante. I shudder the thought of her HW Y&R.

I wouldn't mind seeing Cane go to jail (whatever it takes to get rid of him), but I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't. People get away with crimes all the time on soaps. He hasn't taken any money and he's there at Phillip III's request, so if he does time, I'll be surprised.

Exactly! Characters dont pay for their crimes anymore.

I wouldn't mind seeing Cane go to jail (whatever it takes to get rid of him), but I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't. People get away with crimes all the time on soaps. He hasn't taken any money and he's there at Phillip III's request, so if he does time, I'll be surprised.

Even if he doesn't go to jail, charges should be brought against him. Who really does time on a soap? After that, I hope they write his ass off the show, or he leaves town before the case goes to trial.

How did Cane's dna match Billy's if Cane is an imposter?

The Nina stuff is the only thing I find remotely interesting coming up.

How did Cane's dna match Billy's if Cane is an imposter?

Don't you know that DNA is a joke on this show by now?

The Nina stuff is the only thing I find remotely interesting coming up.

I'm shocked!

A lot of the posters in this thread that liked the show a couple of months ago, hell a couple of weeks ago are currently turned off by it and are hanging on by a thread. Most of the response in this thread appears to be negative regarding the show's current direction.

This show lost me somewhere in March, as I've pointed out a million times before. I also said Nina is the only thing I'm remotely interested in at the moment.

How can a show go from bering decent to absolute sh!t in the matter of a month? I don't get it.

It's called having taste dear, you might need some.

No dear, you misinterpreted what I wrote. I like Nina's role in taking down Cane, not this ridiculous return from the dead crap.

If it's any consolation, I think Y&R is sh!tty on a consistent basis these days.

Well, it's good seeing Nina setting out to prove Cane is a fraud. After this, and with no real ties on the show, what else is left for Cane? But I wouldn't put it past MAB and company to keep this shiteous character and actor on the show for years to come with crappy storylines.

Also, shouldn't Cane face stolen identity charges? If the show brushes that aside, I will really be pissed...

Yep.

I think the show is getting mixed to somewhat negative reviews if you look at all the boards out there.

There have been a few critical mistakes:

1) The hiring of Clementine Ford as Mac and the rushed Bac story. We never even got a chance to see Billy/Chloe as a couple and maybe even connect to them and root for them. Mac shouldn't have come on to the scene until Chilly had a real period of wedded bliss. And then when Mac did enter it should have been someone with palpable chemistry with BM.

2) Jill being turned into a fool & a shrew. I now regret the unrelating story because it has not served Jill well at all.

3) The Quad turning into a bad episode of Swingtown and turning Nick into a total empty-headed douchebag.

4) Making Adam a baby-killer. And uh, is Ashley still carrying the dead fetus? Yuck.

5) Giving the Scoobies any sort of story. Those four need to stick to comic relief.

I don't think Daniel has to be a comic relief character. He's been bogged down for years by poor stories but he has potential for far more. Jana should too. I think Bill Bell would have loved Jana and written major stories around her.

The one-sided writing for Jill/Kay is one of the reasons I couldn't be happy about undoing Kay as Jill's mother. More and more I think this was done only to put Mac and Billy back together. It hasn't made any difference in Jill's position on the show. I think we'll get more when they find out about Phillip but the dynamic with Kay was too frequently reduced to Jill yelling at Kay while Kay tried to be noble. At least this was lessened for the Cane/Lily wedding. The other story, the foolish story, I don't put on the unrelating, I put that on Y&R always needing to remind us of how brilliant Victor is supposed to be.

I think Mac is an obvious mistake who obscures the biggest mistake in Billy's character. He's a jerk we're asked to feel sorry for and want to root for, yet I don't think they have given fans a reason to care about him. All he has done since return is sleep around and screw up. Any relationships he's had have been trashed as he jumps from one new screwup to another, and now suddenly we're supposed to also care about how he's fated to be with Mac.

The dark tone to the stories, the poorly written or invisible motivations, the unsympathetic central characters, the pacing issues, the writing which is degrading to women, I think these have all been problems for a long time now, even before MAB, Rauch, and Sheffer, but the first big story they had (Nikki's breakdown, Jack and Adam forging the diary, Nick and Victoria returning to Victor's fold after a long period of very interesting estrangement between them and their father) was full of these problems for me, so I've always been cautious about just how much the show had improved.

I think it has improved and there are many different parts of the show which shine, but I also believe those who are now in charge of the show either don't know or know and resent the basic tenets of soap. That's one of the reasons I was disappointed they hired Hogan Sheffer, because I think this happens to every soap he writes for. I think if they get rid of him, and Hamner, and find a stronger co-writer who genuinely knows how to write for soaps, then progress will be made.

Even if he doesn't go to jail, charges should be brought against him. Who really does time on a soap? After that, I hope they write his ass off the show, or he leaves town before the case goes to trial.

I'm all for Cane being off the show, but if Cane is charged they'll probably have to charge Philip with conspiracy or as an accomplice. It's better to let Cane slip out of town. Maybe his last scene can be Jill helping him go on the the run or something.