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Y&R: Week of May 25, 2009


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I wouldnt say its a miracle, id say its about damn time the show wrote a happy mac. I honestly think up until this point it was written fro mac to be dark/edgy/bitchy but not ina good soap opera way, in an annoying mac kind of way. lol.

Mac finally got to let her hair down and flirt and have a little fun and SMILE. and Clem rocked it IMHO and i hope they work on the characters, because i do feel that the character is the issue, not the actress.

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It doesn't even need to be a role reversal since that selfish bastard Nick is the only one who saw the results and actively stopped Jack and Phyllis to run another DNA test. Have Sharon find out he wanted Phyllis more than her at the time and pretended another mans child was his just to do so.

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That doesn't really fit with how things went down at the time though. Nick was going to stay with Sharon even though Phyllis was pregnant. Then Sharon pushed him away. I don't want to see the paternity changed at this point in any case. Maybe in a couple of years, but right now, it's too much. When Nina said that DNA couldn't be trusted I was thinking, maybe not in GC :rolleyes: But in the real world mistaken results are few and far between.

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But I am with Alvin. We don't want one more "fraudulent DNA" of any time, I feel.

In a strange way, if Nick DID lie, I wonder if could bind him and Phyllis together in a way. After all, fraudulent DNA was the glue that cemented Phyllis to Danny for years. It would be strangely karmic.

I cant' believe I wrote the above. I have loved this couple. But--seeing the writing on the wall--I am prepared for Phick to be dismantled in the most gruesome ways possible.

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Hey yall! Been pretty busy this week (new man, maybe a new job, new jeans!) but just wanted to say Adam is out of control! More stuff happens on this Y&Rin a week than happens in a year on some shows and it's good stuff too. Not groundbreaking, but not boring for sure. MS and PB have their Emmy reels.

The spoilers are insane!! MAB will either be hailed as a genius or a the newest kitchen-sink writer. My gut says the former.

Branco says he thinks that Victor knows it's Adam who is messing with Ash. I think it's more Braeden trying to show that nobody will play Victor for a fool. Cause with everything going on, if he knew it was Adam he'd put his ass in jail quicker than you can say mumble. But how funny was it to see Adam runnijng through the house like the hunchback of Notre Dame?

From MAB's interview looks like a rainbow is headed to GC. Does anyone else see HUGE sparks between Chloe and Mac?? MAB said something to the effect of "maybe another gay pairing". I think it's these two for sure.

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Who cares about the bullsh!t, we wanna know about the jeans :).

I have absolutely seen what Branco's talking about, vis-a-vis Adam. And, like you, I have believed that Braeden was working against the text and subtext given to him. He will not allow Victor to be the fool. But there are places where the text ABSOLUTELY works against what Braeden is trying to do...like when he told Adam to keep an eye on Ashley. I guess that could have been a little bait to make him Adam feel like he was getting away with it...but I definitely think Braeden is modifying the story.

But you know what? I'm cool with it...because from what I can tell, Braeden is doing it all with his eyes/line delivery/jaw. If he is that skillful, let him have it!

Hmmmmmmm. But neither character has shown a modicum of same-sexedness. Mac has been with Billy, JT, Raul and kinda-Kevin. I'm not saying she couldn't be (Clementine Ford was married to a man, for a time), but I'm not feeling it...not even in CF's portrayal. And Hendrickson, it seems to me, is not playing any such subtext either...plus for her, it would kind of be redundant to play a lesbian again after AMC.

I hadn't thought "lesbian" though. But I'd be totally cool with that. I just don't think it is these two. (But I have not a clue who else it would be).

Yes. Just to see the faces of their men...priceless. That said, why do I feel Billy would say: "Wait...Chloe and Mac are having sex? Sex? Prepare to make a Billy sandwich!!"

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I could easily buy Mac as a lesbian.I think her past supports it to some degree. She always seemed uneasy with relationships. I can't buy Chloe as a lesbian. The show would have to really change her for me to buy that. But if GL can do it with Otalia and

then I guess anything is possible.

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:lol: Can't wait to see Friday's show.

(Not diminishing your enthusiasm one bit...because I think Bergman DESERVES each of his Emmys...but the only problem I have with that moist-eyed Jack is that it is not the Jack I first loved [Terry Lester's]. So, when Bergman is knocking it out of the park I am still...two decades later...still wondering where his sensitivity came from.)

But, yes, this has been a strong week on several fronts, and most notably the Stafford-Bergman and Miller fronts. (That scene earlier in the week where Billy and Jack had their confrontation just killed me...because BOTH actors were totally in the moment...Miller MATCHED Bergman on the "emotional truth" dimension).

Since my Phick is apparently dead, I hope the future brings Billy-Sharon together. I really think those two are terrific, and I would love to see Bergman continue his role as "odd man out" with this twist.

On the other hand, due to the intentional plotting, Y&R has now effectively deadened my love for Nick Newman. This minute, I want him in a plane crash...just to knock some sense into him.

And Phyllis. Sigh. Just thinking about her makes ME tear up. Sad, beautiful woman. I really do hope she finds sincere happiness some day. Even though that apparently bores everyone else to tears.

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See, I look at it from another angle. If Mary Jane ends up being who we think it is, then what we're seeing is the evolution of Jack into a man who is much more similar to John Abbott, finally letting go of the man he was before, a man completely driven by his own desires no matter who he hurt, and stepping into his father's shoes - just as he's faced with a living breathing symbol of what a deplorable human being he was. Also, we haven't seen Jack have any need for revenge against Victor since the diary. Sure, there are snide comments, but Jack appears to be moving on, focusing on love and family in a way he never could before. Unlike Victor, whose whole purpose with Mary Jane was to help bring about Jack's ruin somehow.

And just as Jack embraces the future his father wanted for him, he's confronted by his own horrible past and who he used to be. So I'm okay with the "kinder, gentler" Jack for now, because I'm curious what it will mean three months or six months or a year from now when all of this blows up in his face and he wants vengeance. Which Abbott man will he choose to emulate - his father, or the Jack Abbott he was in his youth?

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