There it is... The standard Are you happy with any of the soaps right now? It's getting old and isn't even an argument...

The reason I asked the question is because I wanted to find out if:

A: Y&R worldturner has any reasonable perspective, or if he is one of these people who enjoys complaining and is never satisfied with anything anyone does.

B: Finding out what shows he DOES like (I said soaps OR other kinds of shows) would give me an insight as to what type of writing or storytelling engages him, and maybe it would help me understand his opinions.

I'll admit, that production style, background score, and acting chops can take mediocre writing and make me enjoy the hell out of it. But I see you all saying that MAB is not "creative".. well.. what kind of SL do you think would BE CREATIVE? What would you like to see?

Well someone, quickly, say something about the episode.

The episode sucks, there. Just negative me.

Dmarex, love your avatar. I wish we could get back to that.

One way: What if Heather became Adam's partner in crime? What if she was so addicted to his love, she joined him...willingly. He held her in a kind of thrall, and she lost herself to help him gaslight and scheme.

If it didn't seem abusive...i.e., she was willing...it would be kind of hot.

So character suicide for both characters?

One other thing: Strategically, I think it was STUPID not to show at least a HINT of Thom Bierdz today.

They probably won't show him for awhile. If he really did film that scene in March and nobody knew about it, it means he wasn't on the set of the show from March to May...

The episode sucks, there. Just negative me.

Of course it does. Lane is the central theme. So no Y&R for you tomorrow either.

Well someone, quickly, say something about the episode.

Umm.....it was pretty boring.

A: Y&R worldturner has any reasonable perspective, or if he is one of these people who enjoys complaining and is never satisfied with anything anyone does.

Y&RWorldTurner is perhaps the most realistic person on this board! Yes, everyone will say: Of course Sylph said that. Perhaps the problem is the fact that you're relatively new to this whole thread and don't know his previous views. There was a time he liked Maria.

So character suicide for both characters?

Well...Bonnie and Clyde. Maybe they rest for a while after their caper, then come back for a redemption arc.

They probably won't show him for awhile. If he really did film that scene in March and nobody knew about it, it means he wasn't on the set of the show from March to May...

Of course it does. Lane is the central theme. So no Y&R for you tomorrow either.

I fear what you say about Bierdz is true. Sigh. That would feel like a MAJOR tease.

Lane...Lane...Lane. THERE is something I am NOT positive about, IN THE SLIGHTEST.

Umm.....it was pretty boring.

So we all agree.

Geez, someone just start a "Y&r: Who do you want as HW" thread, instead of talking about it here all the time. LOL I won't because I support MAB.

I did it. Now all you writer junkies can have at it.

The reason I asked the question is because I wanted to find out if:

A: Y&R worldturner has any reasonable perspective, or if he is one of these people who enjoys complaining and is never satisfied with anything anyone does.

B: Finding out what shows he DOES like (I said soaps OR other kinds of shows) would give me an insight as to what type of writing or storytelling engages him, and maybe it would help me understand his opinions.

I'll admit, that production style, background score, and acting chops can take mediocre writing and make me enjoy the hell out of it. But I see you all saying that MAB is not "creative".. well.. what kind of SL do you think would BE CREATIVE? What would you like to see?

Again, I was very positive about this show from November to part of March. Since then, its all gone to hell.

I also realized that during when the show was more decent from November to March, there were lots of problems that MAB ignored, and that she still ignores. Like the horrible storytelling for the Winter's, the fact that characters like Nikki, Paul, Lauren, Michael, JT, Victoria, and others haven't been used much and have no storyline. Not mention, the ridiculous pacing of some storyline and the lack of romance and corporate intrigue. This has gone on for close to a year now, and it's not getting any better.

MAB blatantly ignores her biggest problems, and sorry, she's been there too long now for me to excuse them.

Umm.....it was pretty boring.

Yes, it was. I can't believe we are in for another day of this reception. But today made me wonder about a Nina/Neil hook up. But it has to be original Nina, not nice declawed Nina.

The episode sucks, there. Just negative me.

Come on, you can do better than that. I really do want to know what other shows you like past or present... it will help me understand where your'e coming from. I'll go first, I love Space:1999, that tell you that I'm a sucker for grand scores, lavish sets, and understated Storytelling. I also love Maude... I love wit and an actress who can say soemthing with a look, and not words. Now you?

Yes, it was. I can't believe we are in for another day of this reception. But today made me wonder about a Nina/Neil hook up. But it has to be original Nina, not nice declawed Nina.

After what she did to Jill... there's still some of that Nina.

Yes, it was. I can't believe we are in for another day of this reception. But today made me wonder about a Nina/Neil hook up. But it has to be original Nina, not nice declawed Nina.

Not to be mean, but can Tricia pull off "sexy vamp"? I'm sure she could, in a Sally Spectra kind of way.

I take that back. If they wrote her as "trailer trash", with too-tight clothes and too-tight makeup.

But Tricia seems like "sensible, real people" to me at this point...and that's what I'm getting from Nina. But maybe the coming emotional storms ("my husband faked his death and abandoned me 20 years ago") will awaken the beast within?

Come on, you can do better than that. I really do want to know what other shows you like past or present... it will help me understand where your'e coming from. I'll go first, I love Space:1999, that tell you that I'm a sucker for grand scores, lavish sets, and understated Storytelling. I also love Maude... I love wit and an actress who can say soemthing with a look, and not words. Now you?

Herskovitz & Zwick shows minus quarterlife. Hollyoaks — Bryan Kirkwood's reign.

The writers wouldn't go there... Just wait when she snaps us another one.

If Philip 4th not gay

. I'm waiting for all those ex Lame fans. To turn into LiP fans. I don't even have a name for them.