Another World

[Khan]

Let's be honest: Tom Eplin's entire life is just one big OMG.

I think Stephen Schnetzer is/was the most embarrassed to be there, followed by Matt Crane.  (Mark Pinter might've been embarrassed, too, but then again, his midlife crisis probably enjoyed hanging out with the younger crowd, lol).

[Contessa Donatella]

Kim Wells has been looking for this promo for years. It was on YT & then vanished & she loves it. So I just posted it on her FB "Another World - Decades of Drama" group & she is fangirrling. She loves it because it includes all of the men who were on the show at that time. She said Joe said it was cheesy. She says she understands that & my saying how & why it was awful but she still loves it & laughs. OY. Heck, glad you found it as at least one fan has her heart's desire now. 

You just said a mouthful. 

[j swift]

Troy Hall (with his frosted tips) is probably just happy to remembered at all, regardless of his moves, given the noxious character of Tito that he played. 

Edited March 3 by j swift

[Contessa Donatella]

Poor guy, we used to call him, ahem, TightyWhiteys. 

[Franko]

Was that based on an episode or scene, or just that he would walk like his briefs were too snug? I was about to say that I was surprised that daytime would still let a guy wear briefs, but there was Matt Bomer on GL a few years later.

[vetsoapfan]

To the audience, Steve and Alice were endgame. Mac and Rachel had become endgame as well. Some may argue that creating supercouples whom the audience refuses to see permanently separated limits future plot possibilities, but...that's just the nature of the beast. The idea that Steve would ever romance Rachel again betrayed history and made the whole situation pretty dumb. If, after decades (in terms of storyline time), the characters STILL had not come to an understanding of whom they truly loved and wanted to be with...pffft! They were too old for that cr@p.

How I loooooathed that OLTL opening. So generic and pointless, and not even well done. I called it, "Bed sheets in the wind." Yuck. I wish AW had stayed with its original, classic opening. Like ATWT with its globe, TGL with its lighthouse, DAYS with the hourglass, etc., AW's interlocking rings was iconic.

Agreed. No one could reasonably deny Canary's obvious talent, but his interpretation of Steve Frame was quite different from George Reinholt's. It would have been less jarring and more likely to succeed if Canary had been directed to play the character in a more reserved, subdued manner.

While I never accepted any of the recast Alices, I understand your point here. Borgenson had a "stillness" about her which was true to the character of Alice, but with Courtney, I detected a reservoir of deep, turbulent emotion bubbling just below the surface. Still waters run deep. With Borgenson, I personally never felt she had any depth; any passion at all.

It would have been interesting to see how Canary, Borgenson, and the renewed Steve/Alice saga could have turned out with better writing. Probably the best chance would have been to lure Jacquie Courtney back, and then pair her with Canary. Having a beloved familiar face playing the romance might have helped the audience warm up more to the rebooted couple. Of course, we will never know.

 

[Contessa Donatella]

Honest to God, I can't remember. I believe we found out that is what the character wore. Whether that was a sighting or a line about it or someone doing laundry, not sure, but it was like that! One of us really dug him, although of course he was too young for her, but that doesn't prevent leering. The rest of us just made fun of him from that day on. Apparently briefs were totally uncool in our eyes, then. 

And, poor Matt Bomer! I read an account where he told about his GL storyline & it was both hilarious & incredibly sad, at the same time. 

I always thought that in a way Rachel - Steve - Alice was a super-triangle. But, Steve & Rachel, nope, not at all, never. Steve & Alice, yes, yes yes. 

[Xanthe]

I would have liked to see Tito redeemed just enough so that Paulina would have kept him as a quasi foster son despite his bad behaviour. Nick had put his nasty ways behind him so Tito could have been a jerk and a screwup with just enough of a real emotional attachment to Paulina to make it interesting. 

I've been looking at episodes of As the World Turns where they still had a thriving population of children, many of whom grew up to have quasi adult storylines. There was a period in the early 80s where Another World had a lot of little kids around who had been born on the show and it’s too bad that really only Amanda and Matthew and Maggie (and I guess I should count Nancy) from that generation grew up. 

I have a question about Julia Shearer. According to the AWHP, Dan and Susan adopted her at the age of 10. She first appeared at age 17 in 1982 played by Kyra Sedgwick. Prior to that Susan had last been in Bay City in 1979 divorcing Dan. Was Julia talked about prior to 1982 or was the adoption a retcon in order to fill in a family void?

[j swift]

Susan and Dan went through a divorce but reconciled before departing in 1979.

While I'm not entirely certain, Julia appears to be a retcon. During Susan's involvement in the Olive storyline, which initially led to her breakup with Dan (who subsequently dated Alice), she did not have a child. From what I remember, despite holding a job at the hospital, she moved between staying with Liz and Alice because she was single and unattached.

It's funny to characterize Julia as filling a family void, although I understand what you mean.  When Susan left, Sally was going through her adolescent rebellion and tried to triangulate Susan and Alice.  But, by the time Julia showed up, Sally was in her full ingénue era. So, I guess Liz needed someone to fret over.

Edited March 3 by j swift

[kalbir]

We could say that about the P&G shows in general, chasing trends but getting them wrong.

[Paul Raven]

It's all very well to have hip/sexy promos (even if they are wide of the mark) but unless the show holds to that vibe, what's the point?

Maybe AW would have been better off with a more classy/mature promo for their men and keep the dancing/prancing to a couple of younger cast members.

As i posted earlier, had JC stayed on as Alice, audience might have been more receptive to a new Steve or other males cast against her.

[Mona Kane Croft]

Julia was a complete retcon.  She was never mentioned on AW until shortly before she started appearing.   

Edited March 3 by Mona Kane Croft

[Xanthe]

Exactly. Kyra Sedgwick arrived as a bit of a wild child which did seem a bit reminiscent of Sally post-Boston. Was Sally already reformed by then? I guess Jennifer Runyon wasn't committing crimes, just marrying Hobsons and feeling like Steve wasn't as protective of her as he was of Diana.

Did Julia and Sally interact much when Kyra Sedgwick and Jennifer Runyon were in the roles?

 

Thanks for the confirmation. If Dan and Susan reconciled in 1979 and then adopted her without discussion offscreen I suppose she could have been SORASed to 17 by 1982. It's not so very different from the timeline for Sally to get pregnant and give up Kevin in order for him to show up as a 5- or 6-year old child in 1983.

[j swift]

And it does fit the characters.  Susan had grown weary of Liz's interference in her marriage, and Dan had dated Alice.  So, who were they going to run and tell in Bay City that they adopted a child in Boston?

[j swift]

Oddly, I don't associate George Reinholt with being either subdued or reserved.  I may be biased because I recall more of his work as Tony on One Life than Steve.  But, to my recollection, he was a bit blustery and prone to table pounding or other physical indicators of his character's emotions.  And his baritone voice felt like a better fit for stage work rather than the intimacy of TV.

Edited March 4 by j swift