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6 hours ago, Mona Kane Croft said:

I can't answer the question about Charlotte, but I can add something about Wyndham's acting style versus Strasser's as Rachel.  Strasser played Rachel somewhat similarly to the way Susan Lucci played Erica Kane in the first decade of AMC -- sort of flighty, using her voice to exaggerate things, and a hint of humor, even though Rachel did terrible things.  Wyndham played Rachel with none of that.  There were no similarities between VW's Rachel and Susan Lucci's Erica.  VW's Rachel was dead serious. At times, she almost seemed dangerous -- like she might actually do something violent to Steve or Alice, if she didn't get her way.  VW could play a humorous line now and then, but still it was nothing like Erica Kane.  It really did seem that Strasser's version of Rachel would have been much more redeemable than Wyndham's.  So it is interesting that Lemay didn't begin to soften Rachel until a couple of years after Wyndham assumed the role. He could have easily began Rachel's transition to heroine while Strasser was still on the show.  

The ironic thing was that Rachel had started the path to being redeemed somewhat when Strasser was playing the part with her moving on and marrying Ted Clark.. and wishing Steve/Alice luck.  And even at the start of Wyndham playing Rachel, she was still married to Ted and sort of played the marriage aspect in her first few months in the role before he caught her with Steve and broke up with her.

I agree that Strasser's Rachel was flirty, charming, and had this anxious need to belong to the Haves.  My late mom said Wyndham was scary when she played Rachel and really showed the vicious side of Rachel with no cutesy flirting or batting her eye lashes.

Her Rachel was convincing as both an artist and also in a corporate setting.. something I don't think Strasser could have pulled off.

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7 hours ago, Mona Kane Croft said:

I love that you and I are coming from two different perspectives, yet we more or less agree. And I thank you for that.   

Isn't it particularly divine?

7 hours ago, Mona Kane Croft said:

And of course -- why not Carmen?  For God's sake, Carmen was damned good as Iris.

 

Yes, why not??!!!

7 hours ago, Mona Kane Croft said:

And finally -- why go to the trouble of finding Sam Groom and flying him all the way from California, if he wasn't going to play Russ?? Especially since Russ's daughter (Josie) was still a major character.  Something has always been very fishy about all that.  I'll speculate that the intent was for Groom to return as Russ, but at the last minute someone at NBC or P&G said NO!  So Groom was given a day-player role.  Again, just speculation on my part.  

That was so incredibly stupid.

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I started watching in 1987 and never really got into Rachel. She always seemed boring to me and hard to relate to. She was very affected; it was like she was putting on airs; her performances were not natural. I enjoyed the show despite her. I didn't know the history of the show back then.

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I came across a Michael Logan column where he discusses a plot where Alec Mapa played a psychic who reunited Cass and Frankie. Does anyone remember this storyline? I have no memory of this at all. There's no date on the column except that the column does mention a DAYS storyline coping the plot from GHOST so the storyline would have to be after the 1990 release of the film.image.jpeg

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15 minutes ago, chrisml said:

I came across a Michael Logan column where he discusses a plot where Alec Mapa played a psychic who reunited Cass and Frankie. Does anyone remember this storyline? I have no memory of this at all. There's no date on the column except that the column does mention a DAYS storyline coping the plot from GHOST so the storyline would have to be after the 1990 release of the film.image.jpeg

I know that Desiree was on DAYS during 1991 which is a year I think of as pretty bad for DAYS. Molly & Tanner, Julie without Doug, Kimberly & Shane, Ginger secretly Molly's biological mother. To me there was only one good story, Marlena loved two men but wasn't allowed to love both of them. OG Roman was back with her. John was with pregnant Isabella. Desiree, of course, could've been in 1990 & in 1992. I only know about 1991 because last year I did a rewatch of that year. 

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1 hour ago, chrisml said:

I came across a Michael Logan column where he discusses a plot where Alec Mapa played a psychic who reunited Cass and Frankie. Does anyone remember this storyline? I have no memory of this at all. There's no date on the column except that the column does mention a DAYS storyline coping the plot from GHOST so the storyline would have to be after the 1990 release of the film.

Thanks for the article.

AWHP lists Mapa as appearing in 1992. I looked in the synopses and didn't see mention of a psychic, but I may have missed it. I'd guess he was in the first half of the year as that's when Frankie and Cass were slowly reconciling.

Needless to say, Nicholson, Beatty, and Mapa were not cast in M Butterfly (and I have my doubts the first two were ever interested). The film was a big flop anyway.

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2 hours ago, DRW50 said:

Thanks for the article.

AWHP lists Mapa as appearing in 1992. I looked in the synopses and didn't see mention of a psychic, but I may have missed it. I'd guess he was in the first half of the year as that's when Frankie and Cass were slowly reconciling.

 

I found the character, Pasham, mentioned in the synopsis from January 4, 1990. 1992 is probably an error (unless the character came back later). 

http://www.anotherworldhomepage.com/aw1990d1.htm

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The Hollywood Graveyard channel on YouTube has uploaded another video today, and this one features the final resting place of Anne Heche (Vicky/Marley Love). If you want to see it, I marked the video to start at her segment.

If you're inclined to watch the whole thing, other notable names in this one include Paul Sorvino, Marsha Hunt, Burt Reynolds, James Michael Tyler (Gunther in Friends), and Paul Reubens, a.k.a. PeeWee Herman.

 

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Remember around 1986-87 on ATWT, when Douglas Marland retconned Kim and Bob's (supposedly dead) love-child, and had her turn up alive 20-years later as Sabrina Fullerton Hughes?   

So here's a question Regarding AW: Let's imagine that Marland was hired as head-writer on Another World. Were there any lost babies or young children who Marland might have mined history, and written a storyline in which that child/baby survived??  

I do have one idea in mind.  But first, I'd love to hear ideas from fellow posters...

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12 minutes ago, Mona Kane Croft said:

Remember around 1986-87 on ATWT, when Douglas Marland retconned Kim and Bob's (supposedly dead) love-child, and had her turn up alive 20-years later as Sabrina Fullerton Hughes?   

So here's a question Regarding AW: Let's imagine that Marland was hired as head-writer on Another World. Were there any lost babies or young children who Marland might have mined history, and written a storyline in which that child/baby survived??  

I do have one idea in mind.  But first, I'd love to hear ideas from fellow posters...

Rachel had a miscarriage in her first pregnancy with Mac, although that might have been too much as viewers saw Kim pregnant all the way through whereas Rachel miscarried in her first (?) trimester. 

I don't think Marland would have done it, but if Pat had stayed on AW and AW had gone into the '00s I could see them bringing on her aborted child as some kind of vendetta plotline. 

If they ever brought Catlin back, then they could have said his child with Brittany (the one washed away in a flood or whatever) was still alive. 

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11 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

Rachel had a miscarriage in her first pregnancy with Mac, although that might have been too much as viewers saw Kim pregnant all the way through whereas Rachel miscarried in her first (?) trimester. 

I don't think Marland would have done it, but if Pat had stayed on AW and AW had gone into the '00s I could see them bringing on her aborted child as some kind of vendetta plotline. 

If they ever brought Catlin back, then they could have said his child with Brittany (the one washed away in a flood or whatever) was still alive. 

Love your ideas -- obviously you know AW history!!  I'm intrigued by the Pat's baby plot.  

But you are missing a big one for a lost child/baby alive plot.  Let's see what kind of ideas other posters suggest . . .   

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Wally Curtin could have been brought back as the go to lawyer in a little nod to history as Marland brought on Carter Bowden on GL as the son of 60's character Alex Bowden.

Ricky Matthews, not a blood Matthews but brought up as Bill's son.

Had I been in charge in the mid 80's the Matthews family would have been invigorated with Mike Randolph, Ricky, Russ' child to lead the way. Pat and Liz as matriarchs.

 

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