Loved Murphy proposal to Katherine! They are such a great couple. In your face, Frons!!

Also loved the ending to Friday's US episode. Next week is going to be so good.

It occurred to me that Sharon's letter may foreshadow a suicide attempt. She needs more than Jack to anchor her, she needs a good therapist.

I didnt think it was foreshadowing but it had me thinking of if she was going kill herself. She's been getting really scary. Have you seen the cover to SID? This definetly made it make more sense

I immediately thought about suicide when I heard Sharon's letter, especially when she said something to the effect of "maybe they'd all be better off if I wasn't here." I think that would be a good twist in the story, but I want something dramatic and please no kidnapping. Nothing graphic, but pills seems a bit too predictable. I'd love a scene a la Nicole Kidman's Virginia Woolf in the hours where she stuck rocks in her pockets to weigh her down and then drowned - of course Nick or someone would save Sharon, or maybe a good old drive off a cliff/bridge.

Did anyone find the way EB played the Victor and Nikki scenes odd?

I immediately thought about suicide when I heard Sharon's letter, especially when she said something to the effect of "maybe they'd all be better off if I wasn't here." I think that would be a good twist in the story, but I want something dramatic and please no kidnapping. Nothing graphic, but pills seems a bit too predictable. I'd love a scene a la Nicole Kidman's Virginia Woolf in the hours where she stuck rocks in her pockets to weigh her down and then drowned - of course Nick or someone would save Sharon, or maybe a good old drive off a cliff/bridge.

Did anyone find the way EB played the Victor and Nikki scenes odd?

OMG, the way he was looking at her when she came back and thanked him was totally, "Get the [!@#$%^&*] out of my house!" I don't know what Marge was talking about. Nikki wanted to kiss him but he definitely didn't want to kiss her.

I loved thursday's us episode. It was hilarious. I loved the juxtaposition of Jeffrey and Jack. I don't think the writers defined Jack as such a scoundrel before but I'm so glad they finally did. Jeffrey definitely is screwed up but at least he doesn't hide it. Jack is far more dangerous, I think.

Why the heck was the pacing of the show so quick? One second Nikki's with K at the trailer, the next she's at the Club with Nick and Phyllis? And what's Nick doing back already? With no one mentioning, "Hey, how was China?" That scene was so weird. Like it was edited in wrong.

And that's a great idea for Sharon committing suicide. She'd totally play the victim but not in an obvious way. Because her behavior over the last few months has been based on being secretive and hiding away from everyone (vanishing like the trinkets she's been stealing from people's houses). The pills are definitely obvious and a kidnapping would be so damn repetitive. I hope it's something where she makes herself the victim though, and Nick saves her, again, as you stated. Awesome idea, AllAboutAngst.

I have a solution to everything. Cane is a master fraud and arranged years ago for Jill and Kay to be revealed as mother and daughter. Then he and his henchmen captured Katherine long enough to hypnotize her into thinking she gave away Jill's real son Phillip. When he came to town, he planted some pieces for Amber to make the connection and there you have it, Cane is the Chancellor heir. His accomplice who works in the lab fixed the results for Kay and Jill and again for Cane and Jill. When it is all revealed, Cane goes to Jail, never to be heard from again. Then the show can bring on the real Chancellor heir, Little Phillip, now a grown man, back from the middle east with serious trauma and wounds that need to be healed with the help of a supportive young vixen.

Man, Little Phillip totally needs to come back. All the guys on this show are such wusses. Like variations of Nick and Adam. Where are the real men, dammit! Let's get Phillip in there!

And of course, that would mean Nina.

If they were able to get Phillip in and Mac, who'd both have so much in common, I'd totally buy that triangle with Billy, Mac, and Philliip. Awesomeness! Totally better triangle than any of the ones they got going on in the younger set. I really hope that the reincarnation of Mac isn't as pissy as Lily, though. Although, MAB did do a great job with Billy.

Let's get the Aussie(s) off the show. (that was for you y&r_fan; all in jest, of course)

Edited March 27, 200916 yr by rhythmchyc

I didn't see that SID cover. Thanks, Cheap21. I'm glad that Sharon is getting professional help. I actually don't think that she is playing the victim. If anything she is going out of her way to hide her pain and nervous breakdown from the people that she loves. I hope when Jack finds out about Sharon and Billy that he doesn't turn his back on her because she will need him more than ever. As for Nick, really he needs to stay away from Sharon and let her heal. Watching him trying to sneak upstairs to hump Sharon yesterday was a low point even for him.

The Nikki and Victor scene with Marge's narration about the kiss shows how Eric Braeden's ego continues to dictate how he plays Victor. Clearly, the moment called for Victor and Nikki to show a moment of warm between. MTS followed the script, while Braden was determined not to let Victor show any feelings for Nikki which means that he is resistant to Victor and Nikki reuniting. Paul Rauch may be this tough EP, but I bet he isn't happy with Braden and can't do a damn thing about it.

I hate the Kevin story. It is the weakest story and I hope it wraps soon. No soap is perfect and Y&R is solid at the moment.

Ohhh, I like that plan! I actually like that whole playout for Cane--works for me.

And I think I want a Murphy of my own. That was just one of the best proposals on soaps in a damn long time. And I'm impressed Y&R has managed to work in a diner without making it a big joke in the long run, and creating characters that fit into the Y&R canvas.

Ah, Murphy, diner, even Perry Como. I could not have imagined I would love it all as much as I did.

I'll say this: I HATED the first Marge go-round. Over the top, too long, and Morey Amsterdam playing violin. IMO, we never saw Marge's charms. And if they were there ('cause she did coin "Sexy Rexy"), I missed them because she was an evil kidnapper. Plus Clint always made me viscerally ill.

But this time around, especially after death...I'm just LOVING that wise, folksy broad. I'm never one to save dialogue, but this time... Did someone have concerns about Janice Ferri Esser, who wrote the dialogue? She really did a fine job here. No breakdown writer was listed. It must have been Hogan Sheffer (given the narrating ghost), don't you think? He probably threw a few of those bon mots into his outlines, I'll bet . I have put this all into a single quote box because of SON restrictions....

Her prologue:

I'm going to tell you some juicy tidbits about her rich friends in Genoa City, 'cause they're nuts. I mean, those people are nuts.

On Jack and Jeff:

Want to come up with a scheme? These two are your "go" guys. Now just don't strain your brain trying to figure out how their convoluted minds work.

I like that they clarified that Kay was not just a SUBSTITUTE for Marge in Murph's mind:

For the record, me and murph were strictly friends, and I was lousy at checkers. If that old boy got hit by cupid's arrow, it wasn't 'cause of me.

Good use, too, of Marge in foreshadowing where we're headed...

Jill's hardly a chip off the old block. You remember the story, don't you? I mean, katherine got herself "in a family way" while her husband gary was out of town, had that kid on the side and gave it away, only to be informed years later that baby grew up to be her worst enemy. Oh, my, you talk about irony. Sort of kind of makes you wonder what the next twist will be, don't it?

I loved all of her comments on Jack, Phyllis, Nick and Sharon. She had plenty of disdain for randy Nick (who, like his father, just seems utterly unable to give up his exes):

And it's a hoot what nick and phyllis are going to do for her. Now if they can just get their lives back on track, you know what I mean? It ain't easy for a guy to be in love with two women, but... that little son of a gun-- he's got to make a choice pretty soon. You just can't leave the ladies twisting in the wind, you know? Since, uh, one of them's hanging by her fingernails.

Oh, nick, nick, nick, you bad, bad boy. You just can't help yourself, can you, hon? I'm telling you, these people are slaves to their passion like no one in any trailer park I ever lived in.

Great little comment on the torturous Phyllis:

Ain't she the pits?

Nice summary of Sharon:

Instead, the poor thing's just dwellin' on every bad thing she's ever been a part of, diggin' up guilt with a shovel, burying herself under a mountain of shame.

And on the Phyllis-Sharon dynamic:

Girlfriend, if looks could kill, you'd be ridin' home with me.

My favorite quote, though:

Well, let's give these four bananas a chance to get ripe.

Loved her comment on Clint's next steps:

Clint didn't make it to heaven. No, no, he took one of those "southern detours," if you get my drift.

This Victor-Kay dialogue was great, esp. Marge's subsequent comments. It tells us that the writers REALLY do still believe that Victor and Nikki are the destined couple. I can't believe that, since he is SUCH a jerk. Poor, poor, poor Doug Davidson.

Kay: Mm, well, you know what they say-- when you find your soul mate, never let go. (Sets glass on bar) think about this-- how many people on the face of this earth are lucky enough...

Victor: (Sighs)

Kay: To find someone that completes them?

Victor: Mm, like you and rex.

Kay: Or like you and nikki.

Victor: That's done and over with, katherine. I'm with ashley now. Excuse me.

Marge: Now if katherine felt like gettin' the last word in, you know what that word would be? "Hogwash."

Marge: Now you see, that really burns my butt. You only get a few chances in this life to tell someone you love 'em. Idiots-- they're both idiots.

It is almost the only time I have ever, ever, ever enjoyed Jeff Bardwell. Ever.

Jeff: Gloria bardwell, amos slaughter, best bounty hunter in the whole midwest.

Gloria: Bounty hunter?

Jeff: Yep. We're gonna track down kevin and bring him home safely. What do you think of that?

Gloria: (Sighs)

Marge: I don't know about y'all, but where I come from, that's called love. Love.

Non-Marge related, two things really took my breath away. First, Victor continues to be smart. He has figured out the whole Jill-Kay DNA story. Good for him!

Jill: That's your opinion. There is no way that woman is my mother.

Victor: I didn't say she was your mother. I said she was katherine.

And the Nikki-Kay dialogue about Murphy was

Nikki: You were on a bowling team.

Kay: Mm-hmm. Well, murphy says, yeah. Uh, captain, no less.

Nikki: (Chuckles)

Kay: And he also said, as a bowler, I would make a good fisherman.

Nikki: (Laughs) yeah, I'll bet. Don't tell me he took you fishing, too.

Kay: Oh, probably would have when it warmed up. He owns a, um, bait and tackle shop.

Nikki: Really? Well, then you're both entrepreneurs-- another thing you have in common.

Kay: (Laughs) oh, my darling nikki-- ever, ever optimistic. You know, the woman he fell in love with doesn't exist. No, that waitress at the diner plays checkers after a supper of pork and beans. What if that simple...down-to-earth person is really the kind of--of woman he wants? (Sighs)

And in a true sign that we're about to get the real Jill and Kay back, finally....

Kay: I've just been reminded how vindictive you can be. I can hardly wait until all of this is sorted out and I go back to my home. And I promise you, I will make your life a living hell.

Edited March 27, 200916 yr by MarkH

Oh, nick, nick, nick, you bad, bad boy. You just can't help yourself, can you, hon? I'm telling you, these people are slaves to their passion like no one in any trailer park I ever lived in.

My favorite line. I couldn't stop laughing. Hell, I'm laughing now. Nick is a dog in heat. Phyllis is busy deluding herself. Jack is ignorant to Sharon's actions with Billy, but understands that she is in serious trouble. Sharon is having a nervous breakdown.

It is a credit to Y&R that they pulled off this episode. It was humorous, serious, bittersweet, and life affirming all at once. This isn't easy for a soap or any show to do. It actually reminded me of the episodes of Six Feet Under where Nathan Sr. appears. The episode did have Hogan's snarky humor. Who would have thunk that Hogan and MAB teaming up would be such a boost for Y&R? Kudos.

Stacy Haiduk is so fine! Damn!

Go away Cane

Edited March 27, 200916 yr by detroitpiston

Stacy Haiduk is so fine! Damn!

:wub:

Wow, they really aren't trying to give anything to Heather. Just another one of those characters they could cut loose at any time if they wanted to. I'm tired of seeing her being hit in the face by Victor's door or just being someone Adam could constantly reject. Either do something with her or let her go.

Wow, they really aren't trying to give anything to Heather. Just another one of those characters they could cut loose at any time if they wanted to. I'm tired of seeing her being hit in the face by Victor's door or just being someone Adam could constantly reject. Either do something with her or let her go.

I agree.

I think they should give her cancer or something. It doesnt need to be a main storyline, but its a long term storyline that could have impact on adam, paul, and others. I also think its overdue for a storyline like that. It would be great to see a soap take on cervical cancer or something more modern.

I loved the Katherine photo shoot!

Why is Katherine wearing that weird turban on her head though?

Victor, Cane, and Jill are all making me sick today......

Heather is used at a very supporting capacity, which I don't mind. I don't think I could stomach Vail or Heather in large doses. That said, I'm sure she'll be more involved in Adam's storyline later on. They seem to have been hinting at some sort of reconciliation. She wouldn't have gone through all the trouble of finding him a dermatologist, or trying to get him out of prison if she didn't care.

Victor will never like her, and I can't say I would blame him. She clearly has an agenda against him.

Victor will never like her, and I can't say I would blame him. She clearly has an agenda against him.

He doesn't have to; every living thing can see Heather's agenda.

I loved the Katherine photo shoot!

Me too; but I am still unwilling to care for Restless Style.