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CNN gave Trump daily access to free campaign promotion beginning some time around the summer in 2015.  Both Anderson Cooper and Don Lemon took turns at interviewing him daily and basically brushing off his rhetoric by presenting him as some sort of friend.  In so doing, they normalized his words and gave him some degree of credibility.  Maybe they saw it as a harmless way to get ratings since they probably didn't think he'd get elected but giving him all that airtime to spout off certainly helped him reach more people than had they not.  I don't think they started to show concern until it was too late to dismiss him.  CNN got the ball rolling and the other cable news networks just followed.

 

Their viewers might appreciate not being subjected to the daily lies and distortion of reality served up by Kellyanne Conway and Sean Spicer.  He's generally abrasive and easily irritated and she is unable and/or unwilling to answer a question.  She can't seem to even answer a "yes" or "no" question.  Everything has to be twisted into some tale of the media not appreciating and recognizing the greatness of Trump or some false equivalency used to try to excuse Trump's actions. 

 

Actually all three of them (Priebus, Conway and Spicer) are a waste of time.  They all try to spin everyone along in some intentionally convoluted web that has nothing to do with whatever the topic is.

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32 minutes ago, JaneAusten said:

Well that is actually the best case to be made. And it hasn't seemed to hurt their sources or the leaks they get. I wish the NY Times would get their spine back. At times it's shown but then they soft peddle stuff or hide it like not disclosing that dossier on Trump before the election, even though they had it.

 

Agreed. I've tried to subscribe to media outlets that I think did and do good work. WaPo, Newsweek, Vanity Fair and maybe Teen Vogue. But the Times has a lot to make up for before I give them a dime.

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It's still incredible to me how Teen Vogue, of ALL publications, has stepped up since the election.  Don't get me wrong, I applaud their work.  But it's just so bizarre.

 

Next thing you know, Black Hair Monthly's gonna blow the lid off Trump's plan for martial law in predominantly African-American communities.

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2 hours ago, Juliajms said:

 

 

ETA: On the other hand not seeing Kellyanne has been kind of nice.

I'm pretty sure they have her in a pod, re-charging her batteries.

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8 hours ago, Wales2004 said:

CNN gave Trump daily access to free campaign promotion beginning some time around the summer in 2015.  Both Anderson Cooper and Don Lemon took turns at interviewing him daily and basically brushing off his rhetoric by presenting him as some sort of friend.  In so doing, they normalized his words and gave him some degree of credibility.  Maybe they saw it as a harmless way to get ratings since they probably didn't think he'd get elected but giving him all that airtime to spout off certainly helped him reach more people than had they not.  I don't think they started to show concern until it was too late to dismiss him.  CNN got the ball rolling and the other cable news networks just followed.

 

Their viewers might appreciate not being subjected to the daily lies and distortion of reality served up by Kellyanne Conway and Sean Spicer.  He's generally abrasive and easily irritated and she is unable and/or unwilling to answer a question.  She can't seem to even answer a "yes" or "no" question.  Everything has to be twisted into some tale of the media not appreciating and recognizing the greatness of Trump or some false equivalency used to try to excuse Trump's actions. 

 

Actually all three of them (Priebus, Conway and Spicer) are a waste of time.  They all try to spin everyone along in some intentionally convoluted web that has nothing to do with whatever the topic is.

 

CNN has been empty and pandering for many years. I think Ted Turner has even said as much. I remember tuning in for their Iraq invasion coverage in 2003 and quickly noticing it was nothing more than Aaron Brown taking off his glasses 500 times to show us how Serious and Important the matter was. No mention of actual issues. Then there was their coverage of the BLM protests and the conflict with cops, which amounted to Don Lemon saying the place must stink of weed. 

 

I will never praise any of the cable news outlets or most of the press for ever stumbling onto any truth. Too little too late. The only reason they say a peep is because Trump doesn't pat them on the head the way W and McCain often did. And they are doing absolutely nothing to help anyone at this point. They are just doing what they do best - putter in impotent self-important outrage while waiting for the next shiny object.

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9 hours ago, kalbir said:

Not sure if any other non-Americans are posting here, but do recent events make you not want to travel to the US?

 

I'm based in Melbourne, Australia, and I was fortunate enough to have visited the US for the first time in August last year when I went to Seattle to see a couple of friends up there. Even then, immigration going through LAX was akin to being interrogated for first degree murder.

 

And I'm glad it was Seattle I got to experience for my first US visit, as it is honestly one of the most socially progressive cities in the USA from what I have read. With Trump's election, I can firmly say that I will not be going back to the USA anytime soon, particularly while he is President.

 

 

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8 hours ago, Khan said:

It's still incredible to me how Teen Vogue, of ALL publications, has stepped up since the election.  Don't get me wrong, I applaud their work.  But it's just so bizarre.

 

Next thing you know, Black Hair Monthly's gonna blow the lid off Trump's plan for martial law in predominantly African-American communities.

 

I wish. Then a lot of people who don't pay attention to politics might see what's going on.

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File this under the growing list of people who didn't pay attention to Trump's words, either didn't believe what he was going to do (despite him campaigning on this issue) or didn't think it would affect them, therefore didn't care.

Now their relatives are going to stuffer due to the stupidity of their own family members.

 

Family of Syrians Deported From Philadelphia Voted for Donald Trump

 

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25 minutes ago, DramatistDreamer said:

File this under the growing list of people who didn't pay attention to Trump's words, either didn't believe what he was going to do (despite him campaigning on this issue) or didn't think it would affect them, therefore didn't care.

Now their relatives are going to stuffer due to the stupidity of their own family members.

 

Family of Syrians Deported From Philadelphia Voted for Donald Trump

 

 

This is so upsetting - it's just awful. And again it shows how many won't listen to what someone says. They will always think it doesn't apply to them. It does. And if it doesn't today, it will tomorrow. 

 

Anyway, if you want a palate cleanser, this is an interesting piece on the feud between ex-British PM Cameron and the editor of the Daily Mail, which likely helped push the tides toward Brexit.

 

(I can't help wondering how relieved Cameron must now be to be out of there after the way Theresa May has to embarrass herself with our dear leader)

 

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-38816692

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1 hour ago, DramatistDreamer said:

File this under the growing list of people who didn't pay attention to Trump's words, either didn't believe what he was going to do (despite him campaigning on this issue) or didn't think it would affect them, therefore didn't care.

Now their relatives are going to stuffer due to the stupidity of their own family members.

 

Family of Syrians Deported From Philadelphia Voted for Donald Trump

 

 

It's sad but we've got to resist the urge to help people who voted against their own interests. It's tough for us on the left because empathy is a core value but too many people simply aren't motivated by empathy or hope or the idea that we are "stronger together." They are motivated by selfishness, fear and only learn through pain.

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I mostly agree with this, and it's why we have to keep pushing. Click through for the full string:

 

 

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