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CNN just called on Trump to release his taxes. All the networks are just shredding him.

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CNN just called on Trump to release his taxes. All the networks are just shredding him.

I find it hard to feel bad for CNN because they were the leaders on the pump up Trump routine so while I realize they were one of the most vocal and pissed about getting played today(making the entire event a Trump infomercial), their coverage of him has been a Trump infomercial for months. I hope this means the press continues to pound on him as well. WaPo has been doing a good job in recent weeks but that Newsweek story has been largely ignored for who knows why. That is the most scathing

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This is the only place online I can even talk about politics (I don't talk about it offline either, really, other than to a few people I'm close to), but I'm so disgusted by this whole election and by the realization that Trump can say and do anything and voters and the press will just support him more - I'm not even sure if I'm going to keep following it. I've always said Hillary will eke out a win or Trump will have a solid win, and that seems more likely by the day. I'm terrified for the country and the world, but I'm at the point where I'm starting to think ignoring it all (beyond voting on election day) is the best way to go. If Hillary wins it will be in spite of so much that has been built to favor Trump, in spite of a public that rewards bigotry and apathy at every turn and in spite of a media that openly talks about how giddy they are that Trump is on the way to the White House. At the moment it's a steep climb, and I don't know if I can see her making it.

I follow it on the net but now that's it. the 24hr. networks are now just TMZ. the polls mean nothing IMPO. 8-10,000 voters may be polled but when over 100 million vote that is NOT a representation of what voters are thinking. they have sold the entire country down the river...and they want to keep it close for ratings. that's it. the TVMSM entertainment industrial complex get their marching orders and do same. 

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When Trump gets overconfident - or feels like he's been humiliated, as he did by being convinced (allegedly by Conway) to go onstage and reluctantly 'renounce' birtherism - he goes rogue. It happened post-primary with the Khans and his hellish month of August and it's happening again now with his ludicrous hotel farce where he spent 4 seconds on his 'admission' and then barred the press.

 

Spoonfeed them plenty but insult them and they buck. The media is turning on him. Front page of the NY Times this morning calls Trump a liar.

 

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The Times has fucked up a lot on Trump lately and has felt major pressure for it, from people like Paul Krugman and others. Their editorial staff, including Maggie Haberman, have grown increasingly testy. This is a big change from their apologia for their prior weak headlines on Trump.

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I don't know Vee sometimes I think too little too late for the media. They have been complicit for not months but years in helping stoke this birtherism story. I forced myself to stay away from all media yesterday but I watched Trump's "apology" and it made me cry. I am a single white female, late 30's, I can't claim to relate or understand how it is to be an African American, but the fact that this man stood up there in a matter of 20 seconds said it was over and HE settled it made me ill. Does this country still feel the big old white male sheriff is needed to validate anything. And it was a hit at HRC also not just because he lied about the fact she started it, but that HRC the woman couldn't finish something. So 2 nods to his racist sexist base. And then that idiot Chris Matthews gives him credit for apologizing? Seriously that was no apology and if anything the hate and divisiveness this movement caused deserves an apology to the American people.  This view of America, once the "Shining light on the hill" is terrible. And still the cowards in the GOP who helped fester this ideology say NOTHING.

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Chris Matthews was raging at him last night. As was most everyone else.

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I don't know whether anyone read and/or posted this one previously but kind of an interesting interview with Mark Cuban on the reasons why he changed his mind on Trump and endorsed Clinton. It is kind of weird that his initial reason for thinking of Trump was as a buffer against Ted Cruz but I guess that's when he believed that there was a single GOP candidate that was even near Presidential material. Still don't get it, but oh well.:blink:<_<

 

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I was feeling somewhat confident in the weeks following the convention. But not anymore. His numbers just keep rising. I can't comprehend the ridiculousness that comes from Trump and his surrogates... whether it's something hypocritical like, "I cannot support someone who lies for a living," a false claim like "She doesn't have plans," or something completely unacceptable (so - basically anything that Trump says about anyone)... there just aren't any words. 

 

I don't know whether anyone read and/or posted this one previously but kind of an interesting interview with Mark Cuban on the reasons why he changed his mind on Trump and endorsed Clinton. It is kind of weird that his initial reason for thinking of Trump was as a buffer against Ted Cruz but I guess that's when he believed that there was a single GOP candidate that was even near Presidential material. Still don't get it, but oh well.:blink:<_<

 

Mark Cuban Changes His Mind

 

I liked this part, especially what I put in bold: There were two things that finally led me to endorse Secretary Clinton: The first was that I did quite a bit of homework to understand all the allegations that were directed toward her and found almost all not based on fact and the remainder far from material. The tipping issues were Trump’s positions on NATO, our treaties, dealing with our allies, his comments on nuclear weapons, and his lack of understanding of the concept of deterrence. His ignorance of these issues scared the [&#33;@#&#036;%^&amp;*] out of me.

 

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Josh Marshall analyzes Trump's latest meltdown, which, yes, is having a major effect. The press is hammering him for yesterday, the polling for the last week is coming in Hillary and Trump was repeatedly humiliated this week - and this latest collapse started with a pastor and an interview with a reporter afterwards.

 

Almost every word in these three sentences are those of a profound narcissist. Last night's outburst - hinting again at the murder of Hillary Clinton - was basically inevitable. His teeth gritted admission that Obama was born in the United States had to be matched by a new lie about Hillary Clinton. He actually managed two. Trump packaged a narrow factual concession into two new lies. What might have been an admission or even an apology was presented as a personal victory for which the country and even President Obama should thank him.

 

Trump is injured by attacks and slights as we all are. But for Trump they create an inner turbulence which forces an almost peristaltic response. The inner equilibrium must be reestablished. The salient fact about Trump isn't his cruelty or penchant for aggression and violence. It's his inability to control urges and drives most people gain control over very early in life. There are plenty of sadists and sociopaths in the world. They're not remarkable. The scariest have a high degree of impulse control (iciness) which allows them to inflict pain on others when no one is looking or when they will pay no price for doing so. What is true with Trump is what every critic has been saying for a year: the most obvious and contrived provocation can goad this thin skinned charlatan into a wild outburst. He's a seventy year old man with children and grandchildren and he has no self-control.

 

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Only a few hours before that tarmac interview, Trump was rebuked to his face with cameras rolling by an African-American woman. It may have been the boldest rebuke Trump has received from a 'civilian' (not another candidate in a debate, or a journalist in an interview) in this entire campaign cycle. She even placed her hand on him in calling him to account.

 

"Mr. Trump, I invited you here to thank us for what we've done for Flint, not give a political speech," Timmons told Trump.

 

"Okay. That's good. And I'm going to go back onto Flint," Trump replied before ending the speech a few moments later.

 

As usual, Trump's reaction was characteristically meek in the moment. But internally he clearly seethed.

 

Our report on the Pastor Timmons' rebuke moved at 4:30 PM on Wednesday afternoon. Costa's article said the interview was "conducted late Wednesday aboard his private plane as it idled on the tarmac." In other words, Costa interviewed Trump at most little more than 5 or 6 hours after Trump left Pastor Timmons' church. Trump made a few comments after his Timmons encounter, claiming she was a Clinton supporter who had set him up. They were the same kinds of passive aggressive jabs that began his fisticuffs with the Khan family. But in all the rush of news of this unbridled week, they drew relatively little notice. I can't know, of course. But I suspect the fever really broke out in that interview with Costa back on his private plane and that the Timmons' encounter was the spark.

 

Much more at the link.

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I know I am being very pessimistic but while true, that's from a liberal site. 

 

Though the NYT did post another negative article about him which is out of the norm and in response, Trump tweets that his lawyers want to sue the NY Times. But he apparently is holding back for now. 

 

I think it's suspicious that records from the Ivana/Donald divorce have been abruptly concealed just after the papers showed he verbally abused and demeaned her. That it was unsafe for them to remain married and that Ivana called his treatment of her cruel and inhuman. 

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I know I am being very pessimistic but while true, that's from a liberal site. 

 

It's not a 'liberal' site per se, it's a well-respected and factual one cited often by the press.

 

BTW: Hillary is now up by 9 in PA.

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Obama is ripping it up at the Black Caucus. He is working the crowd.

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