Members Khan Posted July 5, 2018 Members Share Posted July 5, 2018 We make no promises...but we'll do our best. Unfortunately, Pruitt's resignation is a case of "too little, too late." Yes, he's outta there (and back here, unfortunately) but the damage he did while he was in charge at the EPA will outlive him for decades to come. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DramatistDreamer Posted July 5, 2018 Members Share Posted July 5, 2018 If the group, called Rise and Resist had pulled a 'Mariah Carey' they certainly changed their tune when I heard one of their representatives speak this morning. The group's spokesperson said that although, it was not something the group planned (because of the physical risk), they thought cited Patricia for her bravery and called her an active member of the group. Ms. Okoumou has already been released on her own recognizance to appear in court next month with three misdemeanor charges. She has pled not guilty. @DRW50 By the way, Ms. Okoumou, who emigrated in 1994, is a naturalized U.S. citizen. Not sure where people are getting the idea that she can be deported without a major breach of the rule of law. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted July 5, 2018 Members Share Posted July 5, 2018 I read an article a week or two ago that naturalized citizens are also being deported (or at the very least taken into custody). Maybe that's wrong. I hope it is. I'm glad the organization is standing behind her now. Their statement yesterday didn't give me that impression. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DramatistDreamer Posted July 5, 2018 Members Share Posted July 5, 2018 (edited) That is wrong. A green card holder a.k.a 'legal resident' can be deported if serious crimes are committed. A naturalized U.S. citizen has all the rights of any other U.S. citizen. There have been reports of green card holders and a naturalized citizen being detained before being released. As terribly unpleasant that is, it is not the same as deportation. Only a major paperwork snafu can cause a U.S. citizen to get a deportation order, at which point that would be grounds for one hell of a lawsuit. Edited July 5, 2018 by DramatistDreamer 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted July 6, 2018 Members Share Posted July 6, 2018 https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/the-us-army-is-quietly-discharging-immigrant-recruits 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Juliajms Posted July 6, 2018 Members Share Posted July 6, 2018 This is really messed up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted July 6, 2018 Members Share Posted July 6, 2018 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted July 6, 2018 Members Share Posted July 6, 2018 SNL used to rag on that speech too. One of the few things I do not miss about Presidents of more modern years is the phony, overwritten speeches that most of them never could pull off anyway (only Reagan could, which is probably the only compliment I can pay him). Even Obama's best moments were more from the heart than from the pen). Of course I'd take that over "build the wall" or "they aren't bringing their best." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khan Posted July 6, 2018 Members Share Posted July 6, 2018 (edited) Well, Pruitt's out, which means...one more contestant for the special "Trump edition" of "Dancing with the Stars." Edited July 6, 2018 by Khan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Juliajms Posted July 6, 2018 Members Share Posted July 6, 2018 I want to be happy about the fact that this guy is out, but will his replacement be better? Doubt it. Maybe he'll be better at pretending. Yes. I think people are on edge right now and are expecting the worse for 45 at every turn. Yet despite his best efforts we aren't living under some blood and soil doctrine. A citizen is a citizen as it should be. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members DramatistDreamer Posted July 6, 2018 Members Share Posted July 6, 2018 Wow, so the courts have already struck down six of Scott Pruitt's rollback policies! He was so hasty to undo Obama-era protections that he neglected proper procedures. I see this happening a lot with this current government. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DramatistDreamer Posted July 6, 2018 Members Share Posted July 6, 2018 Are any of these people taking these childrens' fates seriously? People love their dogs, but come on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Juliajms Posted July 6, 2018 Members Share Posted July 6, 2018 ^ How ridiculous. There should be no extension. Taking any of these children was an act of evil, but under 5? What a terrible trauma. I wish nothing but pain on everyone involved in this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members I Am A Swede Posted July 7, 2018 Members Share Posted July 7, 2018 Giant Trump baby to fly over London during his visit! Please register in order to view this content https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-44732754 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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