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7 hours ago, DRW50 said:

I have to admit when I first read stories like these about liberal figures a part of me wonders if its a setup, but this was too detailed to ever give that impression. The duality of his actions - alleged actions I should say - with what he would say and do for the public is breathtaking. It was a very well-written piece. And deeply disturbing.

 

I saw some meme with Ronan Farrow as Thanos, which probably is how some people feel at the moment...

 

(not to take away from Jane Mayer)

I don't.  At this point it's clear to me that there are some very violent men of all political persuasions.   I might consider a set up for anyone in power accused by only one person.  In this case the women involved told people at the time it happened, so it seems pretty clearly true.

 

I bet there will be a few more victims coming forward before it's over.  The ones coming forward in this case were very brave. I doubt I would have had the nerve because this is the kind of guy who can and will make your life hell. Thank God he's been stripped of his official power.

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2 hours ago, Roman said:

and Trump now withdraws from the Iran Accords. what a true POS. really. he worst POTUS in 6 decades. 

 

Only 6 decades? You mean that there's actually been someone worse than Trump?   :blink:

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5 hours ago, Juliajms said:

I don't.  At this point it's clear to me that there are some very violent men of all political persuasions.  

 

I wasn't trying to say that only men of one political persuasion are violent. I was just saying I no longer have any faith or ability to trust most media reporting, especially after the insanity against Obama and the Clintons.

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5 hours ago, I Am A Swede said:

 

Only 6 decades? You mean that there's actually been someone worse than Trump?   :blink:

 

I'd still say W was nearly as bad if not worse, although that will likely change soon enough. It's just he had a less awful personality.

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43 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

 

I'd still say W was nearly as bad if not worse, although that will likely change soon enough. It's just he had a less awful personality.

Right. I think it depends on the criteria we're using to evaluate.  More people are dead because of W and those around him.  We set Iraq on fire under his regime when they basically did nothing to us. Some estimates put the number of dead around 1 million, if you count lack of food and medicine due to the war.

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^ This whole thing is already so ugly.  It's clearly going to get worse. I only hope that the people who deserve jail get it, but I also won't be surprised if the mask totally slips from the Republicans and they try to subvert justice entirely.

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