4 minutes ago, Nothin'ButAttitude said:

While I agree Franken needs to resign, I am gonna sound very unpopular and say he better not do it until after Trump does. It boggles my mind how McConnell wants to do an ethics investigation against Franken, but not against Trump, who has 15 or 16 women that have spoken out against him. 

 

Furthermore, people are saying that this Leann women is a Trump supporter to add insult to injury. Again, I firmly believe Franken needs to be punished for his actions, but why vote and avidly support someone who has a past assaulting women too?!!! 

then by that account, then Moore should get to be Senator if he's elected. We have seen more proof that Franken did something than Moore did 

12 minutes ago, Nothin'ButAttitude said:

While I agree Franken needs to resign, I am gonna sound very unpopular and say he better not do it until after Trump does. It boggles my mind how McConnell wants to do an ethics investigation against Franken, but not against Trump, who has 15 or 16 women that have spoken out against him. 

 

Furthermore, people are saying that this Leann women is a Trump supporter to add insult to injury. Again, I firmly believe Franken needs to be punished for his actions, but why vote and avidly support someone who has a past assaulting women too?!!! 

 

I see your point and agree with where you're coming from.  Until and unless McConnell follows through with the accusations about Trump and Moore, he has no business investigating Franken.

 

To address a pointless accusation made by a certain someone, there is no double standard for Dems and Reps.  If ANYONE behaves this way, they need to go regardless of sex, race or political affiliation.  The only one displaying a double standard right now is a Republican (shocker) - McConnell.

 

13 minutes ago, Nothin'ButAttitude said:

While I agree Franken needs to resign, I am gonna sound very unpopular and say he better not do it until after Trump does. It boggles my mind how McConnell wants to do an ethics investigation against Franken, but not against Trump, who has 15 or 16 women that have spoken out against him. 

 

And this is why we are in big trouble as a nation.  When the person leading you is filth it makes so much wrong doing permissible.  His corruption has been permeating our society since he was elected. 

 

It's like the kids in a near by high school who were taunting Latino kids with "build the wall!!" How do you credibly punish them when our actual President leads these chants at his rallies?

Stmt from Al Franken

 

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/16/full-text-al-franken-apologizes-for-allegedly-groping-woman-244978

 

I'm not here to credit him. Women should be believed but this was a decent stmt. It doesn't excuse it or discredit the victims but accepts responsibility

 

I'm glad to see Kirsten Gillibrand jump on this to initiate an ethics investigation. The response so far has not been "if true" it's been we believe you and we need to further investigate to determine what action needs to be taken

 

I don't think anyone should expect that this is the only one. There is sexual harassment going on on capital hill as we speak. 15 million dollars worth of settlements has been published over sexual harassment allegations, taxpayer money by the way, which taxpayers are not allowed to see where this money has been spent. Their own rules protect them from consequences other than our money being used to settle claims they should themselves be financially libel for and legally responsible.

 

And seriously people are asking Trump to comment on Roy Moore. Uhm exactly what do people expect one sexual predator to say about another.

12 minutes ago, hsfolk said:

then by that account, then Moore should get to be Senator if he's elected. We have seen more proof that Franken did something than Moore did 

 

Moore is a pedophile.  Do you think all of these women are lying?  That he wasn't banned from a mall because he would stalk underage girls?

 

 

2 minutes ago, GMac said:

 

I see your point and agree with where you're coming from.  Until and unless McConnell follows through with the accusations about Trump and Moore, he has no business investigating Franken.

 

To address a pointless accusation made by a certain someone, there is no double standard for Dems and Reps.  If ANYONE behaves this way, they need to go regardless of sex, race or political affiliation.  The only one displaying a double standard right now is a Republican (shocker) - McConnell.

 

 

Again, I firmly believe Franken needs to step down, but not before Trump does. I am all for an investigation IF one is being conducted on Trump too. What's good for the goose better be good for the gander. 

 

1 minute ago, Juliajms said:

And this is why we are in big trouble as a nation.  When the person leading you is filth it makes so much wrong doing permissible.  His corruption has been permeating our society since he was elected. 

 

It's like the kids in a near by high school who were taunting Latino kids with "build the wall!!" How do you credibly punish them when our actual President leads these chants at his rallies?

 

Yeah but you'll never hear the GOP denounce Trump for any of this. All of this is occurring b/c it trickles down from the top. We have an uncouth, sexual assailant in the White House and he's corrupting everyone. 

 

1 minute ago, GMac said:

 

Moore is a pedophile.  Do you think all of these women are lying?  That he wasn't banned from a mall because he would stalk underage girls?

 

Ignore that creature. I have that thing on ignore, and I'm only seeing it's reply b/c you quoted it. 

4 minutes ago, GMac said:

 

Moore is a pedophile.  Do you think all of these women are lying?  That he wasn't banned from a mall because he would stalk underage girls?

 

 

Child molestation is acceptable, so are 17 women accusing Trump but Al Franken should be executed.  Franken should be censored or worse after they investigate. But I'll wait for McConnell's ethics investigation into Roy Moore and Trump before the executioner is called.

2 minutes ago, Nothin'ButAttitude said:

Yeah but you'll never hear the GOP denounce Trump for any of this. All of this is occurring b/c it trickles down from the top. We have an uncouth, sexual assailant in the White House and he's corrupting everyone. 

 

 

Truer words have never been spoken.

2 minutes ago, JaneAusten said:

Child molestation is acceptable, so are 17 women accusing Trump but Al Franken should be executed.  Franken should be censored or worse after they investigate. But I'll wait for McConnell's ethics investigation into Roy Moore and Trump before the executioner is called.

 

Sadly, I think Franken is about to get cut off at the knees while Trump slides through and Moore goes unscathed too. 

 

 

 

14 minutes ago, JaneAusten said:

And seriously people are asking Trump to comment on Roy Moore. Uhm exactly what do people expect one sexual predator to say about another.

 

i don't know, what do you say about Bill Clinton?

9 minutes ago, hsfolk said:

i don't know, what do you say about Bill Clinton?

 

Before I put you on ignore, this is a perfect example of why posters consider you a troll.

 

You were asked a point-blank, straightforward question on what you thought of the charges made against that Alabama slime but instead of answering that, you quote from a completely different post and then deflect to Clinton.

 

BTW, Bill Clinton and Monica were consenting adults.  Was it wrong?  Of course.  It wasn't illegal.

 

Moore preyed on underage girls.  They aren't consenting adults.  Can you wrap your hypocritical mind around that concept?

 

Buh-bye troll

 

Edited November 16, 20178 yr by GMac

4 minutes ago, GMac said:

 

Before I put you on ignore, this is a perfect example of why posters consider you a troll.

 

You were asked a point-blank, straightforward question on what you thought of the charges made against that Alabama slime but instead of answering that, you quote from a completely different post and then deflect to Clinton.

 

BTW, Bill Clinton and Monica were consenting adults.  Was it wrong?  Of course.  It wasn't illegal.

 

Moore preyed on underage girls.  They aren't consenting adults.  Can you wrap your hypocritical mind around that concept?

 

Buh-bye troll

 

I believe if an investigation turns out that Moore did what he's being accused of then he should step down like any politician. Bill had more than just Monica

Edited November 16, 20178 yr by hsfolk

1 minute ago, GMac said:

 

Before I put you on ignore, this is a perfect example of why posters consider you a troll.

 

You were asked a point-blank, straightforward question on what you thought of the charges made against that Alabama slime but instead of answering that, you quote from a completely different post and then deflect to Clinton.

 

And finally, Bill Clinton and Monica were consenting adults.

 

Moore preyed on underage girls.  They aren't consenting adults.  Can you wrap your hypocritical mind around that concept?

 

Buh-bye troll

 

I find Bill Clintons actions with Lewinsky an abuse of power but not assault or rape. Carl's synopsis of how things went down then is pretty accurate. The vitriol displayed by the right completely over shadowed all else. 

 

I'm more interested as to why folks want to re-litigate Clinton and ignore Anita Hill. And for the record there was another accuser of Thomas who was not allowed to testify but I cannot recall why now. But anyone who watched those hearings on live TV, the optics were awful. A panel of white men sitting up on their pedestals by the way, looking down, judging and questioning Hill got women angry enough to elect a record number of female senators the next election. If all of this can lead to massive change including newly elected decent officials I say more power to it.  And Anita Hill is why I do not nor ever will have any interest in Joe Biden. he helped lead that charge.

^ I hear you on Anita Hill. I have never forgotten her. We have a creep in the White House and another on the Supreme Court.  Next up a man who preyed on teenager in the Senate? It can't be allowed.

 

Meanwhile,  the House passed their horrible tax bill.

20 minutes ago, GMac said:

 

Before I put you on ignore, this is a perfect example of why posters consider you a troll.

 

You were asked a point-blank, straightforward question on what you thought of the charges made against that Alabama slime but instead of answering that, you quote from a completely different post and then deflect to Clinton.

 

BTW, Bill Clinton and Monica were consenting adults.  Was it wrong?  Of course.  It wasn't illegal.

 

Moore preyed on underage girls.  They aren't consenting adults.  Can you wrap your hypocritical mind around that concept?

 

Buh-bye troll

 

Yep and Moore even got banned from a MALL, cause he kept hitting on underage girls.