Members Pest Spray Posted November 18, 2008 Members Share Posted November 18, 2008 And she's bloody well worth it. However, she's taken paycuts in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jane1978 Posted November 18, 2008 Members Share Posted November 18, 2008 As someone who still watches the show I really don´t see where you people got the idea Marlena was a central or a tentpole, Alice like character on DAYS. Because that´s not true. Bo/Hope are the central characters of the show, always nice and cute, supporting everyone and giving advices left and right. Marlena and John were always either totally involved in their own stories, or not on at all. And it became worse with the years as they had a hard time to even keep a permanent home set just for them and Marlena isn´t exactly the kind of character who hangs at Brady Pub. I also don´t understand where you took the idea about DAYS being ensemble, multi generation show like Y/R is. Because even twenty years ago the show was mainly about young couples. Older characters had supporting storyline at best, usually used as a meaningless filler between the all important lovestory of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Toups Posted November 18, 2008 Administrator Share Posted November 18, 2008 Jim Reilly in the 90's had DAYS as an ensemble and multi-genration show and it was very successful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rakesh Posted November 18, 2008 Members Share Posted November 18, 2008 END OF 'DAYS' FOR HALL AND HOGESTYN By DON KAPLAN Posted: 2:01 pm November 18, 2008 The sands in the hourglass have run out for longtime "Days of Our Lives" stars, Deidre Hall and Drake Hogestyn -- both have been fired from the 43-year-old soap. "`Days of our Lives' has decided to rest the characters of 'John Black' and 'Marlena Evans,'" NBC officials said in a prepared statement." After a year of separation, 'John' and 'Marlena' will finally reunite before exiting the canvas in early 2009." Hall has appeared on "Days" as Dr. Marlena Evans since 1976 and Hogsestyn has been on the show since 1984. While there has been buzz that "Days" may also be on its last legs, the network granted the soap a reprieve last week, extending the program for at least another 18 months. Daytime soap operas in general are dying breed. With far more profitable syndicated judge shows and talks shows dominating the network's daytime schedules, many industry observers believe it will only be a matter of time before soaps are banished entirely to far-flung cable channels, the Internet or oblivion. http://www.nypost.com/seven/11182008/tv/en...styn_139352.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SteveFrame Posted November 18, 2008 Members Share Posted November 18, 2008 Multi generational show does not mean that the older characters have to have a front burner story or front burner role of their own all the time. Days was a multi-generational show for many many years and Tom & Alice were never really front center in their own story. They were constantly supporting their children's stories and their lives and their grandchildren. They were there; they were seen. Multi-generation just means that all the generations are seen. Chris & Nancy on ATWT have always been there but never front burner. Same with Pa Hughes and Judge Lowell. They were just there. Days has been that even in the 80's and 90's when Alice was seen alot. Or even Caroline and Shawn were shown. But especially beginning in 2000 - no the show has not been generation at all. JER tried to turn it back that way but Hogan Sheffer in particular took away any generational feel the show ever had. Irna Phillips always wrote multi-generational stories but hardly ever wrote front-burner storylines for her older characters. They did get their moments to shine - but she showed how ever story affected each generation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Y&RWorldTurner Posted November 18, 2008 Members Share Posted November 18, 2008 ^That's what I noticed about the Irna Philips matriarchs and patriarchs, they were just supporting familial figureheads. Maybe the exception to that is Bert Bauer on GL, she did have major storylines revolve around her, but she was also a very unique matriarch, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Y&RWorldTurner Posted November 18, 2008 Members Share Posted November 18, 2008 Since SOD reported that DAYS' budget was cut by 40%, that means DAYS' weekly production budget is now around $520,000 give or take a few thousand. That's down from the $1.3 renegotiated budget from 2006. That is really a horrible budget for a show like DAYS, it should've just been canceled, instead it's now in GL territory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaytimeFan Posted November 19, 2008 Members Share Posted November 19, 2008 Actually, the budget's been cut by $520,000, that's the 40%...the budget now stands at $780,000 a week, that's the remaining 60%...that's still a pretty awful budget. I'm thinking several permanent sets with room for one take down/build set, no wardrobe or makeup budget (they can shop at Tar-jay!), Hall, Hogestyn, Evans and Nichols all getting the axe among others with everyone taking a pay cut, everyone behind the scenes taking a pay cut and funneling the 1% ownership profits of Y&R into DAYS...that would help...I think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members marlenafan Posted November 19, 2008 Members Share Posted November 19, 2008 She sure has!! She's been a team player when it came to that stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members marlenafan Posted November 19, 2008 Members Share Posted November 19, 2008 VERY TRUE! You had the younger crowd, the middle aged, and the older involved in storylines. Also, Reilly made Salem about family! You can always count on Reilly to have some sort of family gathering that reiterated the ties each character had to his/her family as well as each other. His Christmas episodes were always the best!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Y&RWorldTurner Posted November 19, 2008 Members Share Posted November 19, 2008 Ah, yes, I was quickly going off someone else's math on another board. And you're right, that's an atrotious budget for a show like DAYS. I just don't see how this show can survive past this recent renewal period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SteveFrame Posted November 19, 2008 Members Share Posted November 19, 2008 Bert was like Joanne Tourneur who ended up the matriarch of SFT but she also started out as a central heroine. That is what Bert started out as too. When Irna introduced Bert in 1950 she was unmarried. She became a mother in 1952 for the first time and then by the end of the 1950's had become the mother of a high school graduate. Bert was never really started out like Nancy Hughes or Mary Matthews or any of the other classic soap opera matriarchs created by Irna Phillips. What was great about them was that they would never have big stories on a consistent basis but they would appear in over 100 or even over half the episodes each year without never having a story. Frances Reid and Macdonald Carey used to be the same way at Days. Sadly the people in their same age range today on Days or any of the other soaps hardly ever get 100 episodes a year. They are just hardly ever there. Look at Maeve Ryan on RH. She is one of the most visible matriarchs ever on any soap opera but when you look back she was always reacting to someone else's story - never to one of her own. You can be a multigenerational soap opera without giving the older characters a front burner story. It's nice when it does happen but it is not necessary. The best stories are those that show how the stories just affect the ones around them. I.E. the Bill/Laura story that I refer to often. It was a great story that Edward Mallory & Susan Flannery were the main stars of but it affected everyone in the Horton family from Tom and Alice to Bill's sister-in-law, Kitty, and all the way down to young teenager Mike Horton who questioned his sexuality due to the rape and other things that happened. And all were featured often through the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Soapsuds Posted November 19, 2008 Members Share Posted November 19, 2008 She is too old for the part of Heather's mom. Heather's mom was a young teen when she had her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeeeDee Posted November 19, 2008 Members Share Posted November 19, 2008 Dee Hall would rock on B&B or ATWT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Soapsuds Posted November 19, 2008 Members Share Posted November 19, 2008 I still say she could play Samantha, Lucinda's sister. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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