OK, what's the deal with Amber not talking about her son at all. That really bugged me on Friday when she was all concerned about Kay and not once mentioned her son on the show. When they talked about her history with the Forresters (very briefly, mind you), she just said there were issues but never mentioned little Eric. What is UP wit that?

OK, what's the deal with Amber not talking about her son at all. That really bugged me on Friday when she was all concerned about Kay and not once mentioned her son on the show. When they talked about her history with the Forresters (very briefly, mind you), she just said there were issues but never mentioned little Eric. What is UP wit that?

Isn't he living with Becky's parents? Amber hasn't been a mother to that kid.

That wasn't my point. The fact that she hasn't even mentioned him is pretty chilling. It's not as if it's her stepson or something.

Maybe the plan on exploring more of Amber's past later. You know, I couldn't stand Amber for a good year and a half on Y&R, but I'm used to her now and I've accepted her. She adds a certain spark to her scenes that just works. Also, I like her bond with Katherine (which makes sense, as Kay's always had a soft spot for women like Amber), and she's really good with Daniel and Kevin.

Let's just hope they don't plan to SOARS little Eric and brining him to town just yet. LOL!

Oh, and Tuesday's show was marvelous, and beautifully directed by Mike Denny (the GC stuff that is). Also, Chole showed a really humane side too, and for the first time, I could see that she really cared for Esther.

I kind of feel sorry for Ashley already, because you know Victor and Nikki will eventually get back together and Ashley will always be the "outsider" looking into that relationship. The conversation that Victor and Ashley had in bed together was really nice.

Oh and they RESCORED "Cassie's Death Theme" twice. First when Eden and Noah were talking about Cassie in the centenary, and then a circus-like version when Nick and Sharon were looking at the electrical horse merry-go-round.

Also, I thought the Paris location stuff really "popped" today.

^^^ IA. For really the first time, I enjoyed the location shots today. And even though I knew what was going to happen with Katherine, it still got to me when the news broke to those in the Chancellor mansion and at the accident scene.

IMO, Amber added a lot to those scenes in the house.

I've enjoyed the show immensely the last two days. The only complaint I have is pacing. We haven't seen anything of the Winter's clan lately or the Baldwins. Not that I'm a huge fan of either storyline right now, but if they were to weave them into the "hot" stories then it wouldn't come across (to me at least) as if they're on "all of a sudden".

Other than that, brava.

On the Wednesday USA show...Jess Walton SELLS it. She plays Jill in mourning absolutely flawlessly, the history she shares with Katherine, all the hate, the mother daughter bond...everything is perfect.

However,

the inclusion of CK in the scenes at the Chancellor mansion is out of place and wrecks what would have been a flawless set of scenes

Oooh, looks like Phyllis will be going a bit psychotic again.

She'll be tearing the whole house apart in Thursday's episode apparently.

I love Phyllis when she's in a self-destructive mode, she's been happy and giddy way too long...

The power of Zenu got to Phyllis. Very, very private joke. I hope her beautiful "hat" survives her tantrum!

All I want is Brad Carlton to be on so I can luxuriate in the beautifulness (my word) of Brad and Brad's house. A set I thought was long gone!

There are no spoilers that involve Don Diamont!

However,

the inclusion of CK in the scenes at the Chancellor mansion is out of place and wrecks what would have been a flawless set of scenes

That is so Cricket like, to be uselessly thrown into scenes they really have no place in to make a screen time quota.

Edited November 12, 200817 yr by BadZoe

B&B fans, can you help me out here? At some point, after driving carelessly with "Little Eric/Little D" in the back seat, didn't Amber lose custody of the child? Back to Deacon?

My point is that, as I remember it, she lost the kid. So it would make some sense to put him out of her mind, because she is not allowed to see him. The child is biologically her nephew anyway.

Here is an excerpt from this link:

Amber could not stand the pain of losing another child and turned to pills to ease the pain. She became addicted to them and after her doctor refused to prescribe anymore of them to her, she went to a drug dealer named Ziggy to get them. When Amber realized how low she had sunk, she went to her sister in law, Taylor for help. Taylor got Amber into a rehab center and Rick supported her the whole time. After coming home, the Forresters through a beach party. At the beach party, a guy named Lance drugged Amber and took her back to his place (Lance was paid by Sheila Carter to do so). The next morning, Lance told Amber that she had gotten drunk, but they had only fooled around, not slept together. Amber went home and told Rick that she woke up in bed with a guy and could not remember anything else. Rick was furious to hear what Amber had done and Amber then moved in with Taylor. Amber and Taylor believed that she had been drugged by Lance but could not figure out why. Amber questioned Lance many times, but Sheila had him killed before he could tell her what really happened that night.

It wasn't long before Amber figured out what was going on, and her former friend Sheila kidnapped her, determined to install her own daughter as Rick's love interest and Little Eric's mother. In a final battle, Taylor was left dead, and Amber and everyone else grieved for her. Rick and Amber were able to get past what happened and reunite, but Deacon's presence continued to cause problems in their life, especially when it was proven that Rick and Amber had no legal right to Little Eric. Deacon eventually won custody of Little Eric. Amber kidnapped him and went on the run, which was the final straw for Rick...he walked out on her. After Macy nearly died at Oscar Marone's club, Amber offered to look after Little Eric for Deacon, and knowing how much his son loved her, she agreed.

Once Deacon was able to look after his son again, Amber was again out of their lives, and with Rick having turned his back on her, she began working on Oscar Marone to get a job with him, but it never went anywhere. When she nearly died in a housefire, she temporarily moved in with firefighter Hector Ramirez, his daughter Caitlin, and adopted son Jimmy, but it wasn't long before she was back on her feet again and living in Taylor's old beach house. She tried once again to patch things up with Rick, but he was in love with Caitlin. When Thomas found Caitlin, whom he had been seeing, kissing Rick, he ended up at the beach house, where Amber extended an olive branch of friendship. Amber tried to fight her attraction to Thomas, but once the Forresters turned their backs on her and she was rendered homeless, she stopped fighting and she and Thomas became lovers. She reluctantly left town after Ridge filed a restraining order against her, returning after Thorne offered her a job at Spectra. She moved into the Forrester guesthouse and tried to have a genuine relationship with Thomas, but when that crashed and burned, she blamed Ridge.

Desperate to prove that Ridge wasn't such a great guy in an attempt to get Thomas back, Amber set Ridge and Bridget up to end up in an abandoned mine together on a skiing trip to Big Bear. Her plan backfired big time when the two of them almost died, and Thomas wanted nothing more to do with her. She left Los Angeles for Italy to try to put her life back together, and caught Ridge in what she believed was a delicate position with another woman, but in fact, an amnesiac Ridge had been more or less kidnapped by a mentally unstable Morgan DeWitt. She helped get him home, but it didn't improve her standing with the Forrester family. After swearing to Stephanie that she would make herself a better person, Amber supposely left town.

Edited November 12, 200817 yr by MarkH

There was another new opening reel today: Victor, Nikki, Kevin, Jack, Victoria, JT. (Not new footage - just old shots spliced together.)

Anyway, I hope they do something about the younger cast. They're an open, smelly lesion. On OLTL, Kay Alderson and Brandon Buddy have improved dramatically in the last year. Whatever those two are doing, some of the younger Y&R cast needs to do. They're obviously not gonna be fired so someone needs to step in and make them work harder. They're clearly sitting on their laurels. And the addition of finer actors in recent months have made their performances even poorer in comparison.

Admittedly, Tammin Sursok has been disappointing me a bit lately. She keeps smiling at inappropriate moments (like when Daniel dumped her). I get that she's trying to do the "fighting tears" thing, but it doesn't always work. Her performances were much better in the OOTA storyline and the Cadrian break-up. Still, it's nothing a director can't fix.

Christel Khalil, on the other hand, has always put in good performances IMO, and I still fail to understand why she gets so much flack.

Those Sharon and Nick scenes were all kinds of stinky cheese. Why did the writers makes Sharon so over the top. Were they trying to write them like these two characters were 16 years old?

Those Sharon and Nick scenes were all kinds of stinky cheese. Why did the writers makes Sharon so over the top. Were they trying to write them like these two characters were 16 years old?

No offense, but do you only watch for Nick/Phyllis/Sharon?

Case's performance has been over the top in Paris, but I don't think Sharon's been written that way per se.

I have yet to see what any woman sees in a boring fratboy wannabe like Nick. It would do both Phyllis and Sharon good to ditch him. It also does him no favours as they made it out to be that Nick wanted more than just a kiss from Sharon, after she backed away and told him she doesn't want to be "the other woman."

I think it's kind of sad that Y&R used to never have these fanbase problems until Latham came in there. Now it always seems that if Nick and Sharon are sharing scenes together, it pisses the Phick fans off, and if Nick and Phyllis are together, it pisses Shick fans off.

Edited November 12, 200817 yr by Y&RWorldTurner

No offense, but do you only watch for Nick/Phyllis/Sharon?

Case's performance has been over the top in Paris, but I don't think Sharon's been written that way per se.

I have yet to see what any woman sees in a boring fratboy wannabe like Nick. It would do both Phyllis and Sharon good to ditch him. It also does him no favours as they made it out to be that Nick wanted more than just a kiss from Sharon, after she backed away and told him she doesn't want to be "the other woman."

I think it's kind of sad that Y&R used to never have these fanbase problems until Latham came in there. Now it always seems that if Nick and Sharon are sharing scenes together, it pisses the Phick fans off, and if Nick and Phyllis are together, it pisses Shick fans off.

LOL! No, but it sure feels like I do. I have watched this show for a very long time and have tolerated more bad storylines and plots than I would care to mention but Nick and Sharon have always bugged the [!@#$%^&*] out of me. I was so glad when they broke them up, really, I was joyous. I cannot stand Sharon at all.

I want them to stay apart. Even if Phyllis and Nick break up, I would rather not have to watch the horror of another "back on track" Shick storyline.

I didn't get that Nick wanted anything "more" but another kiss. I am not sure how Sharon could have guessed he wanted an affair by the tepid kiss he gave her unless he tried to slide his hand up her shirt grab her boob and we just didn't see it. It was Sharon who "went there" on her own.

Victor and Ashley were all I had hoped they would be.

I think it's kind of sad that Y&R used to never have these fanbase problems until Latham came in there. Now it always seems that if Nick and Sharon are sharing scenes together, it pisses the Phick fans off, and if Nick and Phyllis are together, it pisses Shick fans off.

I was just thinking about that. It is so annoying when Y&R has the incessant bitchery of fanbases, and those non-stop "Do you like Phyllis or Sharon?" polls. I mean, why do I have to choose one or the other? Why does it have to be only one? Nick and Sharon never really bothered me; I didn't find them great, but they didn't bother me either. But all the Sharon hate is preposterous. If anything, she has gotten way better recently than she once was. It's very telling that a sufficient amount of Sharon haters are people who hear "Phick" (God, I hate those abbreviations, they're part of the whole supercouple mentality) and have an orgasm (and vice-versa).