Does anyone think Nelson might get fired over spilling this?

Yes, we should blame him for all of that because he with the help of his NON-UNION friends were rewriting all of Maria's material.

I knew Griffith was trouble from the start, and I'm glad Bloom recognizes that. Griffith can't be fired soon enough. He and Scott deserve to never grace another soap studio ever in their lives again after this [!@#$%^&*].

Maria was given too much blame for Josh Griffith's underhandedness and agenda-pushing.

Oh my goodness......

You're really pissed aren't you?

I remember Sylph constantly trying to take the time before Maria's stuff hits the air, believing that she could do good.

I didn't understand this sentence at all.

No, I'm not. Calling me naive is a pretty nasty thing to do.

No, you're not naive, or no, you're not off base? And I never actually said you were naive, per say, just that your general opinion on that subject was misguided to the point of coming across as naive - There's a difference. But that's not the point.

I would have the same opinion if it were legal. It should just be forbidden - you don't get to re-write someone just because you don't like their stuff. And it's not his call to make.

I couldn't agree more.

I didn't understand this sentence at all.

Sorry, I'm posting on a few sites currently... so I'm a bit distraught.

Everybody kept telling that Maria won't do good solo, that she doesn't know how to write, but you wanted us to wait and see how it turns out before judging her.

Sorry if it doesn't make sense again.

Sorry, I'm posting on a few sites currently... so I'm a bit distraught.

Everybody kept telling that Maria won't do good solo, that she doesn't know how to write, but you wanted us to wait and see how it turns out before judging her.

Sorry if it doesn't make sense again.

It does make sense (that's what I thought, I only wanted a confirmation). She has shortcomings, but to dismiss her after only a few months as a total hack worse than Latham is a capital crime. She's a very gracious and sophisticated woman, polite, kind, likeable. Or so I've heard.

There's a whole lot of things in her writing she needs to improve and I don't like at all how she hires new writers, but I think she's ultimately a good influence on the show.

Ed Scott, should not have allowed actors to rewrite their own stories, nor should the actors have excepted the duty in the first place. All are responsible for breaching the rules and ethics of the job, but somewhere in between, Ken Corday needs to be take responsibility for letting this happen. As the main man, he should've known what was going on under his roof, instead of taking a back seat - and if he isn't, then it sure seems like it is, because this just shouldn't have been allowed to take place, not least because it's just so amateurish. Then there's Dena, who needs a share of responsibility for just being bloody crap.

For me, this is the best summary of the issue, with my highlights reflecting my feeling about ultimate responsibility.

Nelson says he has more on this story tomorrow, I'm sure he'll expand on the Y&R side of things.

Nelson says he has more on this story tomorrow, I'm sure he'll expand on the Y&R side of things.

Maybe he finally found "the confirmation" he needed for "the other soap."

Also, does anyone think Josh Griffth is the reason none of the old Y&R writers were ever brought back? I mean if this has come to light, is it beyond the realms of possibility that Griffith's 'agenda-pushing' meant leaving the past in the past?

Explain this more, if you can. You mean that the existing writers...seeing that Griffith was still there are monkeying with their work...chose not to return because, in their view, "the cancer" was still there? Or do you mean that Griffith had some agenda that meant he was not willing to have old writers back?

But, didn't we read that Brad Bell and Josh Griffith are friends? How does that fit in the equation? Because if he is sabotaging Maria, I don't see how the friendship could exist. Or is the friendship a thing of the past?

[Or, since Maria said she had a friendly rivalry going with Brad in her Nelson interview, do you think Brad is feeding Josh with what to do?]

Does anyone think Nelson might get fired over spilling this?

Why would he? He said that himself...but what has he written that is actionable?

Nelson says he has more on this story tomorrow, I'm sure he'll expand on the Y&R side of things.

I love that you share this, but I wish you'd say if "he says this at Gold Derby/The Envelope" or "he says this at DR" or whatever... I totally trust you, but I'm a source nut...and I really like to see the source. :-).

I love that you share this, but I wish you'd say if "he says this at Gold Derby/The Envelope" or "he says this at DR" or whatever... I totally trust you, but I'm a source nut...and I really like to see the source. :-).

Y&RWorldTurner just got off the phone with Nelson.

Also, does anyone think Josh Griffth is the reason none of the old Y&R writers were ever brought back? I mean if this has come to light, is it beyond the realms of possibility that Griffith's 'agenda-pushing' meant leaving the past in the past?

Sylph and I have discussed this in great detail. We think it's no coincidence that almost 90% of the new writers hired by Y&R recently are represented by Jim Sarnoff, who happens to represent Josh Griffith as well. Rain1 told us that Griffith is very particular about writers who join Y&R, from that I gather first priority is given to writers are represented by the same agent as he is, regardless of talent.

Griffith is pushing a MAJOR agenda in this instance and it's not helping the show any...

Edited July 28, 200817 yr by Y&RWorldTurner

Nelson said on DR that it looks like the WGA will officially be stepping in tomorrow.

Sylph and I have discussed this in great detail. We think it's no coincidence that almost 90% of the new writers hired by Y&R recently are represented by Jim Sarnoff, who happens to represent Josh Griffith as well. Rain1 told us that Griffith is very particular about writers who join Y&R, from that I gather first priority is given to writers are represented by the same agent as he is, regardless of talent.

Griffith is pushing a MAJOR agenda in this instance and it's not helping the show any...

And another can of worms is open. Don't get me started on Jim Sarnoff. You want to talk about the REAL reason recycled hacks get tossed from one show to the next? Look no further...