Wow, what a good show today.

I so wanted Bo to marry Lindsay anyway. I guess this is the way it had to be. All the more reason to root for them to reconcile. And Lindsay in a heap on the floor at the end? Poor Lindsay! It was a little like Carrie at the prom, you know? But Nora was a tough character to play in this episode. Honestly Lindsay and Nora both lost it all today. And I like that that's the way it was. Nora and Matthew have always been so close so I was glad that Matthew saw a side of his mother he didn't like for the first time. Matthew's always been sheltered from that, and with his Rappaport history he's dodged a lot of that Lindsay/Nora tension in the past. Clint was great, of course.

But LOL, Lindsay's slept with the groom, his brother, AND his best man!

I'm not clear how Cain and Tina are impersonating royalty! Where are the real prince and princess? I hope this story leads Tina to appreciating the life she was born into, the life she walked away from, and realizing that material things aren't everything...... but... probably not. But I hope it lands her in Llanview permanently. Andrea Evans and Christopher Cousins have a great chemistry, though!

"Welcome to Mendorra!" I thought Carlo was going to continue... "It's going to be a bumpy ride!" Thom Christopher is AMAZING, as always. This gives BethAnn Bonner some rich as hell material to play. Sucks to be the baby girl in that family. Johnny Dee drowned her cat? Charlotte locked her in the trunk of their car for 8 hours? "But it made you the strong woman you are today!" Carlo says, never overlooking the bright side. Soooo many good lines from him today! "And your mother stole you away from me... just as you were beginning to get interesting..."

Can you all tell I love Carlo?

Cole actually got interesting today too! Sinister little bastard playing Todd... "You don't want your grandchild being raised by John's brother... and the woman that stole your son, do you?" Wow, did the writers make a strong choice with Cole on this story! I'm surprised and impressed that they kept the focus on the Starr's baby story, instead of throwing in a tease of "is Cole going to stumble upon his very-much-alive mother today?!" That would have been too much and too awkward for a VERY crisp episode. Starr and Michael's scenes were great too!

Where's my Keyshawn?! Can he get a job as Carlo's enforcer next?

I LOVE CARLO!

He's really the best villain, and he's in that category of being so evil that the ultimate end to all of his stories is that he gets killed off. He's awesome.

Carlo's ties to the current cast:

Viki - Probably Carlo's longest-standing vendetta, Viki shot and killed his son Johnny Dee in defense of sister Tina. Carlo has never gotten over it. I believe Carlo was behind the shooting that left Viki paralyzed when she was either Mayor of Llanview or running for Mayor. In 1996, Carlo hired a psychiatrist/hypnotist (Elliot Durbin, played by GH's Trevor Lansing -- Stephen Macht) to hypnotize Viki into shooting her first born, Kevin, but Viki's love for Kevin was stronger than the hypnosis and Carlo's plot was foiled.

Tina - Tina was involved with Carlo's firstborn son, Johnny Dee Hesser. I think Johnny was obsessed with her, and grew hostile when Tina wanted to leave him to return to Cord, and Viki (as Niki Smith) shot Johnny Dee, killing him, to protect Tina.

Renee - Carlo's former lover from before Renee came to Llanview, Carlo always had a soft spot for Renee, and often warred with Asa to win Renee's love. Renee was the spark of the Carlo/Asa rivalry.

Blair - Carlo was hired by Asa to kidnap and kill Blair. Obviously it didn't come to fruition.

Marty - Carlo was involved in the terrorist organization, the Men of 21, who were responsible for hunting Patrick Thornhart for most of Patrick and Marty's initial courtship. The Men of 21, from what I remember, were what drove Patrick and Marty out of town in the 90s.

Antonio - In Antonio's earliest days, he worked for Carlo Hesser's crime organization, I believe as a mole to bring it down.

Cristian - It was revealed that Carlo was behind the brainwashing/programming of Cristian to kill Tico Santi and involved in the time Cristian was away from Llanview and presumed dead.

Dorian - Gave her a guided tour of Hell when Dorian was shot in a robbery and hovered near death. For the most part I don't remember them crossing paths much in Llanview, but they may have been in cahoots once or twice and I think Dorian was involved in the hypnotism story with Elliot Durbin.

Natalie - Took her hostage in the prison riot (his last appearance on OLTL) and forced her to choose which would be shot: John or Cristian

John - Faced off with Carlo in the Statesville prison riot.

RJ - RJ worked for Carlo's organization in the 90s.

Todd - The Men of 21 shot Todd when he traveled to Ireland to bring Marty back to Llanview. Todd was presumed dead for many months and returned to find Patrick having sex with Blair.

Talia - Apparently her father!

Other significant ties:

Alex Olanov - Married several times, not sure any of them were legal, Alex was always putting one over on Carlo and bouncing between Carlo and Asa. Alex faked a pregnancy with a pillow, and I think Asa exposed it at her wedding to Carlo.

Max Holden - Max convinced Carlo that he was dying and Serenity Springs water might cure him. I think this scam led Carlo to kidnap Max's twins Frankie and Leslie. Max and Maggie Carpenter (Crystal Chappell) were working against Carlo at this time.

Storyline potential:

I would love for him to also be Blair AND Rex's father! Imagine Blair, Rex, and Talia as siblings?! I'd just die.

Does anyone remember Carlo Hesser's daughter? She's a blond and was in Llanview the same time as Carlo's son Johnny. I believe she was dating Cord at one time. What was her name?

Does anyone remember Carlo Hesser's daughter? She's a blond and was in Llanview the same time as Carlo's son Johnny. I believe she was dating Cord at one time. What was her name?

Charlotte. Carlo mentioned his daughter today. I don't know if she was blond. Stephanie Hobart was blond, but dated Kevin Buchanan.

Damn. Carlo could have really gotten around if he fathered Blair and Rex. Sleeping with Addie Cramer?! And Roxy?! LOL, I don't know if I could picture it. But the potential fallout would so be worth it.

Rhino, Michelle Lisanti sucks still.

Cole is to dumb to live.

Oh please Lindsay! Save the the tears for someone who doesn't know you.

Carlo

Edited July 7, 200817 yr by reallyhateskateonlost

Charlotte. Carlo mentioned his daughter today. I don't know if she was blond. Stephanie Hobart was blond, but dated Kevin Buchanan.

Damn. Carlo could have really gotten around if he fathered Blair and Rex. Sleeping with Addie Cramer?! And Roxy?! LOL, I don't know if I could picture it. But the potential fallout would so be worth it.

Charlotte! Yeah, that's her name. Thank you!

Whoa! What's this about Carlo fathering Blair and Rex?? Which episode did I mss?

Charlotte Hesser was played by Audrey Landers of Dallas (Afton Cooper) and Hollywood Squares (with her sister Judi) fame. She was obsessed with Jake Harrison.

Charlotte! Yeah, that's her name. Thank you!

Whoa! What's this about Carlo fathering Blair and Rex?? Which episode did I mss?

Pure fanboy wishing and hoping on my part, there is no notions so far that he actually fathered them. You quoted my post where I threw it out there, so you got me thinking about the possibilities again.

Blair recently asked Addie about her father and Addie kind of dodged the question, and Roxy's so frazzled about Rex wanting to know who his real father is, so both of those options are floating out there. I would like to see Blair's other side of the family, the non-Cramer side. It would add so many new layers to Blair. Where is Shane when we need him?! Isn't Kassie DePaiva his girl?!

Can a soap really be this good? I'm having the vapors now, I think. An hour after the show ended and I'm still feeling the high.

Nooooo, I took a nap at noon and slept right through the show! DAMN! I have to wait til 9 now...

What was the title for today's eppy?

"Meet the Krakoffs"

Cain's alias as the prince has the last name Krakoff.

"Meet the Krakoffs"

Cain's alias as the prince has the last name Krakoff.

That's a good one.

I HATE Nora. Stupid bitch. I cant beleive she had the nerve to say sorry after Lindsay read that letter as if she didnt get what she wanted. I normally dont like Matthew but loved him ripping Nora apart for what she did. That last shot with Lindsay on teh floor crying was hearbreaking. I hope Nora feels good about herself bc no one was happy with what she did.

LOVED the no to history with Carlo and Talia talkign about Charlotte adn Johnny D. I really didnt think they'd get a mention. Those scenes were great and Im glad it gave some insight to Talia

"I should have went back to Cord" YES Tina, you should have and its not too late. Cain is still the same and so greedy and insensitive. After all these years he cant even get Tina's daughter's name right? He doesnt love her and never did. Its all about the fun and the thrill and Tina has always been his meal ticket. I hope she wisens up and dumps his worthless ass

Go Cole! I like him teaming up with Todd. Starr is wrong to just dismiss his rights as a father

BTW: Heres a link to a pic and article about Charlotte Hessar. She was a redhead: http://landers.msshost.com/Articles/SOU/index.html

Edited July 7, 200817 yr by Cheap21

Of course, I'm not big on storylines that involve jewels, fictional countries, and hidden cages, but I thought today's show was good. I didn't think it was amazing, but it was okay.

The only thing I was *truly* interested in was Cole and Todd. I LOVE Cole as the conniving, vindictive little bitch! It works for him!