Members Y&RWorldTurner Posted July 8, 2008 Members Share Posted July 8, 2008 It's time for Nick to cheat on Phyllis, so that horribly boring and character-dragging marriage can come to an end. It would do wonders for Phyllis, as I can see her reverting back to her old ways with an event like that, and it can give some zest to the Nick character. Phyllis and Nick represent everything wrong with Y&R - horribly mismatched couples. They had chemistry during the affair, but that all ended when they became a legitimate couple, things should've never been that way. One thing I hate about Maria Arena Bell's writing is that she seems to want every couple (no matter how mismatched they) happy and the fights some might have are so contrived and nonsensical. It seems like every couple has to get married or engaged under her writing too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JackPeyton Posted July 8, 2008 Members Share Posted July 8, 2008 i love Phyliss & Nick - however i am ready for it to end AS LONG AS Nick DOES NOT GO BACK TO Sharon. That coupling needs to be done done. please! That said, Y&R Needs someone new in that age range for Nick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Y&RWorldTurner Posted July 8, 2008 Members Share Posted July 8, 2008 Nick can cheat on Phyllis with some dumb younger bimbo for all I care. It was an affair that brought them together, it should be an affair that breaks Nick and Phyllis up. Phyllis is so much more interesting and better when she's the bitchy outsider that no one accepts or trusts. With Nick, she's become the happy homemaker who is apart of the establishment. Phyllis is too strong and dynamic for a calm character like Nick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MarkH Posted July 8, 2008 Members Share Posted July 8, 2008 So, I like Phick, but I agree they need to be threatened. In fact, I think you gave me the clue here....Nick needs to cheat with Amber. That would be consistent with his history with Grace (another blonde sexpot)...and it would play nicely given the growing rivalry between Amber and Phyllis. But, honestly, I'd rather Nick didn't cheat. I really want him and Phyllis to have active storylines that are true to their characters (e.g., Phyllis being evil to protect her turf), but at the end of the day, they come home to each other--speak the truth--and love. Nick and Phyllis for me should follow the template of Augusta and Lionel Lockridge on SB (when they were well written by the Dobsons): They may fight but the love/passion/honestly is always there. I should explain that Nick and Phyllis are among my all time favorite couples EVER on any soap. Yeah...more than all the classics you can name . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cat Posted July 8, 2008 Members Share Posted July 8, 2008 Only when Phyllis discovers the affair, she needs to be in a position of power. Like having Nick's stake in Restless Style in her name or something. Or, better yet, she dumps RS for a high-powered job at Jabot or Newman. The scenes of antagonism between Jack and Nick are good from a story arc POV. However, I felt Jack was being demonized all around yesterday. He looked sly in every conversation he had, and that goes against the fatherly feelings he has for Nick. I also wondered whether this is set up to have Nick go running back to his "real" daddy and a job at Newman all over again. Given that the Adam/Victoria "rivalry" (when Amelia Heinle bothered to look awake) fizzled so quickly, perhaps Y&R will go the Adam vs. Nick route. And seeing Cane, Chloe and Nick discussing business just made me realize how much the first two need to be interacting with their own age group/professional bracket. The dorm SL featuring Lily, NuNuColleen and Devon's bitchface is too childish for them. Cane's tight, nip-flashing shirt demands better SLs, too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JackPeyton Posted July 8, 2008 Members Share Posted July 8, 2008 IMHO a much better story than nick cheating (again? really?) is that Phyliss starts to THINK he is having an affair and resorts back to her old ways. Internal conflict. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sylph Posted July 8, 2008 Members Share Posted July 8, 2008 I'd llike Phyllis gone. Forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Queen Posted July 8, 2008 Members Share Posted July 8, 2008 Something needs to happen to rock Phyllis. I've been tired of her for a while. I don't know if I want to see her back with Jack and Nick with Sharon though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cat Posted July 8, 2008 Members Share Posted July 8, 2008 LOL, we all have our guilty pleasures. Given GH's amazing history of supercouples like Luke & Laura and Frisco & Felicia, I've still got stars in my eyes regarding Tamara Braun and Ted King's CarLo (probably GH's mobliest almost-couple). OK, now that is a GREAT idea. She'll probably go on the premise of "never trust a cheater" which will further divide Phick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cat Posted July 8, 2008 Members Share Posted July 8, 2008 I'd like Phyllis's dialogue gone -- or at least revamped. The snarky, insincere valley-speak. I know it's "naturalistic," but everytime Phyllis says "Uh huh, yah. So great" and gives Sharon or Amber her fake, overly bright smile, for some reason I just want to slap the red out of her. And I'm not even a Sharon or Amber fan. Other than that, I like Phyllis. Bitchy Phyllis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Queen Posted July 8, 2008 Members Share Posted July 8, 2008 So glad to see I'm not the only one. That really bugs the hell out of me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members MTSRocks Posted July 8, 2008 Members Share Posted July 8, 2008 I'd rather MAB truly use her creative talents, and come up with something exciting for the pair to play out. I liked the "internal conflict" idea suggested by JackPeyton, that would have worked well if Lesli Kay had stayed around longer. That's like a Bell soap signature it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Juliajms Posted July 8, 2008 Members Share Posted July 8, 2008 I'd love it if Amber seduced Nick. That would bring back real Phylis in a heartbeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MarkH Posted July 8, 2008 Members Share Posted July 8, 2008 Honestly, I think the only point of this is to validate Victor's "I told you so". He WARNED Nick what was going to happen. Excellent point on Heinle-awakeness. I noticed yesterday that Eyal Podell acted HUNG OVER (as he should) in the post-coital scene. He carried that through to his Sabrina scene (wincing at the sun). Also, when he saw Victoria, there was a familiarity and happiness--as befits their survival ordeal together at Clear Springs. In contrast, Amber never seemed hung over...not for a minute. And Victoria was dour (I realize she is mad at Sabrina) and never once played that shared history with Adrian. She is not a good actress. I think she is weaker than usual, and the closeups on the Crimson Lights patio helped explain it. The circles under her eyes were DEEP. That new mama is experiencing SERIOUS sleep deprivation, I think. JP, you are excellent! Yes, of course, the way you propose it would be the very best. And real Amber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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