Y&R Discussion Week of January 21st

January 22, 200817 yr

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The divorce is final and Victor while disheartened by the outcome.... wastes no time erasing Nikki Newman from his life.

"Enjoy it while you can, don't spend it all in one place."

Oh Victor Newman rocks.

This Marina storyline though, total Latham leftover. Its ridiculous.

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January 22, 200817 yr

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This Marina storyline though, total Latham leftover. Its ridiculous.

What was that? That was awful! It made me not want to watch Y&R ever.

Edited January 22, 200817 yr by Soapsuds

January 22, 200817 yr

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What was that? That was awful! It made me not want to watch Y&R ever.

It's ending this week according to the spoilers (thak God!)....

I haven't watched soaps today, so I can't comment on today's episode...

Nikki/Victor is the best thing about this show though!

January 22, 200817 yr

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Nikki and Victor were great today.

I can't believe that Cane and Lily couldn't tell that Marina is Amber - I mean look at her! Can't they see that she bears a very strong resemblance to her. Cane was married to her, shouldn't he know what his own ex-wife looks like!

I'm glad that Jack and Sharon reconciled. I got tired of them being apart.

January 22, 200817 yr

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I'm glad that Jack and Sharon reconciled. I got tired of them being apart.

I hate Jack and Sharon together. I wish they would be apart and in other stories.

January 22, 200817 yr

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Jack and Sharon are by no means an "it" couple. But they are much more tolerable under this current writing regime than the previous one.

January 22, 200817 yr

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Jack and Sharon are by no means an "it" couple. But they are much more tolerable under this current writing regime than the previous one.

Amen. Love the banner!

January 22, 200817 yr

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Jack and Sharon are by no means an "it" couple. But they are much more tolerable under this current writing regime than the previous one.

I don't necessarily like or hate Jack and Sharon one way or the other, I was just tired of them being all whiny towards each other. They needed to make a decision about their future together, and obviously they made that. I do agree that they are much better now than they were with LML.

I too love your banner! Angie/Debbi are awesome.

January 22, 200817 yr

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This is the Amber/Marina spoiler, for those who care:

According to CBS SID, Jill and Katherine call a press conference to announce for the Fresh Face of Jabot finalists. Daniel attempts to convince Amber that it would be a good time for her to drop out of the contest. But of course she doesn't listen and goes to the press conference anyway. At then press conference, Cane stands up and reveals that "Marina" is a fraud, publicly humiliating Amber.

January 22, 200817 yr

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i love cane.

thats all i ahve to say about Y&R for the past year.

oh and that somehow the hack wasnt able to ruin michael/lauren...

January 22, 200817 yr

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RE: Amber/Marina - Instead of going through with this elaborate ruse, why couldn't Amber have called upon the services of her twin sister, April Knight?

Just a thought.

January 22, 200817 yr

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Probably because April Knight was a bad, bad, bad plot twist courtesy of Brad Bell in a desperate moment (love ya Bradley!)

I'm so glad that Marina thing looks to be biting the dust soon, it's SUCH an LML hack job. Just stupid stupid stupid.

Loving Victor and Nikki though, electric!

Also, the little twist with David was nice, now the whole thing is making sense.

January 22, 200817 yr

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Probably because April Knight was a bad, bad, bad plot twist courtesy of Brad Bell in a desperate moment (love ya Bradley!)

I'm so glad that Marina thing looks to be biting the dust soon, it's SUCH an LML hack job. Just stupid stupid stupid.

Loving Victor and Nikki though, electric!

Also, the little twist with David was nice, now the whole thing is making sense.

Yes....good points. Quick end to Marina and Jana-in-jail. Victor/Nikki, Sharon/Jack (to a point), David...all starting to make sense again. This is _not_ what you expect from scabs. This is repair work.

Good job!

January 22, 200817 yr

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Wonder what Nikki's gonna do when the whole bottom of the floor falls from under her feet when the truth about David/Clark comes to the light... Pretty much tells me just how far David would go to ensure that Nikki got cold hard cash for him to continue to add the pressure of getting married/forming a business.... I for one will be happy to see the end of this character.

January 22, 200817 yr

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Thank goodness to the Amber/Marina resolution and it will be nice to see her humiliated. Hopefully once this ends, Amber will just slink her way onto the backburner, and then once a contract cycle comes up, she is gone. Amber represents the destruction Latham laid on this show.

Thanks DeeDee and Addicted ToSoaps for compliments on the banner. Debbi rocks my socks

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Ha! I thought of you when he showed up.
It only took him 7 months to run out of money. He and Jacinda really need a class on budgeting blackmail gains.
Yeah, I get your point. It's a shame both these stories are happening at the same time. It makes Lulu look like a weird helicopter mom that won't let her kids do anything even if she has valid reasons. The show has written Lulu poorly and tried to make her the heavy in almost every situation since her return so it's not surprising.

By carolineg · Just now1 min
Guiding Light Discussion Thread

True, I remember in the beginning that Bea had a much harder edge (and was shown sucking back beers with Floyd). You could understand a little bit why Nola was embarrased by her origins. Later, it was more like she was unreasonable in her disdain for her family. It is a shame they lost their edge.

By DeeVee · 1 minute ago1 min
BTG: History, Behind the Scenes Articles & Photos

It's kind of throughout the entirety when he talks about manliness (and comparing himself to that of Bill Cosby), etc., and how he tried portraying Ted's love for his wife, and how manliness is what needed to be shown. It was multiple comments kind of equalling why he left the role. The 'host' of that 'interview' kept jumping from one point to another point. It was all over the place.

By Liberty City · 2 minutes ago2 min
BTG: History, Behind the Scenes Articles & Photos

He never discusses exiting BTG. He talks about how BTG opened doors for his career but nothing about his exit at all. And the interviewer doesn't ask at all.

The issue is his description of his self-described "manliness", and how he thought women viewers respond to that ... but all of that is alongside the homophobia he expresses.

Some text-based soap websites have typed up and posted their summaries of this interview, in which they state that he says he'd never portray a gay character because his portrayal wouldn't be believable to the viewers, and that it would be better if gay actors got such roles. People hurriedly reading those unclear summaries might buy that as a support of gay actors and representation. But it's not that at all!
If you watch the video, there's more * emotion * in how he says that, making it obvious that he's homophobic.

By janea4old · 3 minutes ago3 min
BTG: History, Behind the Scenes Articles & Photos

Is there a time stamp for when he talks about exiting BTG? I skimmed but couldn't find it.

By BoldRestless · 14 minutes ago14 min
BTG: December 2025 Discussion Thread

Marland would totally fit into that because his main strengths was complicate and complex plotlines with characters sometimes taking a backseat (His Guiding Light was worlds different in subtle ways to his predecessors the Dobon's (husband and wife team).
Bill Bell on Y & R also was very much into plot with character sometimes taking a backseat... and also he had a trusted co-head writer by the name of Kay Alden that did flesh out the characters (i.e Victor Newman, Jack Abbott, etc).
Brad Bell has no business being a writer... but he's actually in the plot realm and not the character realm.

Perfect example was the Doug/Vanessa/Joey story that had both of them slowly becoming ensnared in Joey's web with Joey using their addictions (gambling for Doug and Sex for Vanessa) to his advantage. Doug's 'death' with his son coming to investigate were the last episodes of Guza's stint and all of a sudden the son was sent back to school and Vanessa is now becoming pathetic without the cunning glint in her eyes that we saw in the first 150 episodes or so).
The Hayley bombshell was a great way swan song for Guza's stint. but the aftereffects have been a bit lackluster with Hayley since episode 151 with her making such careless mistakes (no way would she be eyeing Jacob's brother in plain sight, nor talking to Randy in public, nor being overly insistent on Bill drinking a special tea, etc)... and now this random chick that came out of nowhere.

By Soaplovers · 17 minutes ago17 min
Guiding Light Discussion Thread

I never really thought of the similarity. You're right, they are very similar early on.
Early Bobbie is also similar to what we know of Charlotte Bauer.
Beyond GL and GH being such different soaps, and the huge popularity of Luke, I think the biggest difference between the siblings is how quickly the show pivoted Nola away from a seedier world. Even after Bobbie was "redeemed" (which took much longer than Nola's redemption), her past was never truly gone.
Marland's choice to make the Reardons so nice outside of Nola also meant there was less backstory to mine compared to the Spencers. You had Ruby, who was kind, but also razor-sharp, a reminder of where they'd come from. Nola had Bea, who was the stock sweetie pie mother.
By 1982, Nola was moving away from most of the foundation of the character, and there wasn't very much left by the time Lisa Brown quit the show.
They could have brought some of that hard edge back in her second run, but it just never worked out, due to terrible, terrible writing from start to finish.

By DRW50 · 24 minutes ago24 min
Y&R: Old Articles

You’re welcome!
Hahaha Bell’s words on Kurt Costner has always explained everything I need to know. I’m sure Bell was very familiar with McCloskey’s previous work and in his head it might have worked, but between Bell’s admitted struggles and McCloskey being saddled with a lackluster terrible recast it was all DOA.
To this day I still believe TLW deserved that Emmy wayyyyy more than Stafford.

By soapfan770 · 30 minutes ago30 min
DAYS: Behind the Scenes, Articles/Photos

I had to laugh a bit when Amanda was rubbing perfume on her cleavage. I guess she wanted to smell nice in case Chris wanted to motorboat.
Mary Frann was also in the Tang ad with Florence Henderson. Polly Holiday (from Alice) was in the Mon in the Stove Top ad.

By SoapDope78 · 32 minutes ago32 min
BTG: December 2025 Discussion Thread

-- Ted gifted Shanice an electronic bird feeder? This guy has no game. None.
-- The hard right turn moving Leslie away from Ted and towards Marcel makes no sense to me. This just feels like another dropped storyline in a sea of dropped storylines. She was OBSESSED with Ted and now doesn't even mention him.
-- BTW, is Allison gone? Or will we return to her around May and hear some people say "Oh, these writers are so clever!"
-- Is Greg Vaughan going to recur the same way Cady McClain recurs? Because if that's the case, there was no sense signing him.
-- Still waiting for someone to explain Eva's complete outfit and jewelry change from one scene to the next.
-- It's sure looking like Bob Guza's departure is a big loss.

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