Yes, the ratings are real.

I've been SUPER busy this morning so I haven't been able to do a post here yet. I do post at another board and then come here but I guess some people get anxious and copy and paste and then don't credit where they are from so people aren't certain if they are legit or not.

I don't have dailies for some reason the site I go to hasn't updated since 7/22, but I have the final standings and demos for 8/6 - 8/10. Enjoy!

UGH, Y&R GAINED? Damn, it should've fallen!

But overall, another cratastic week for the soaps!

Damn it. I want them to fall so hard.

I would guess that ATWT went up in total viewers (at least slightly) along with the other CBS shows since the rest of the CBS was +.1 in the household rating.

I would guess that ATWT went up in total viewers (at least slightly) along with the other CBS shows since the rest of the CBS was +.1 in the household rating.

I wouldnt know. But I noticed all of CBS went up except ATWT. See that talls me that Y&R's rise and fall in the ratings doesnt determine how good ATWT numbers will be. I hope the Nuke days did well. I am anxious to see the day to day numbers and viewers.

And yes....yesterday's show was horrible. From Gwen to Allison's whining.....Even Cady's return has been a bore. Why pair her up with Paul...another boring character I cant stand anymore.

You know I half expected Rosanna to wake up and say, " I am so worried about Gwen." Paul says, " You don't know Gwen." Rosanna: "" I feel like I already Know her. She is such a wonderful person"

See I can write just like Jean.

From what I hear on Media Domain- it is going to only get worse. Allison supposedly will be a surrogate for Gwen and Will's baby after Gwen loses her baby. Just what we need. The wonderfull recast of Allison- a character I like- ruined only being there to further Gwen's story. Why did they bother to bring back Allison?

"Guiding Light" has the most mediocre time slot across the country than any other soaps on air. For an example, GL airs 9am, 10am, 2pm, 3pm and 4pm in many markets instead of the designated time slot of 3pm EST. GL does not air in the Sacramento and Detroit market. Surprisingly, GL is holding up as much as they can with CBS's overall declining ratings from primetime, late-night, and evening news; however, ATWT, B&B and Y&R should have no excuses since they have a more consistent, stable time slot compared to GL. Think about it, if GL and ATWT or GL and B&B swap positions, I think GL would have higher ratings than B&B and ATWT in their respective time slots.

GL is improving in the demo ratings (which advertisers crave for), airing same day episodes on the CBS.com Inner Tube after 6pm EST, and now with the pending news fan fave returns of David Andrew MacDonald (Edmund) and Daniel Cosgrove (Billy); GL will hold steady and rely on the health of the other CBS soaps to improve ratings. GL has always been #4 rated CBS soap for decades which does not mean GL is going to be cancelled or doomed. It is a FACT that cable and internet has been for the longest-time expanding their channels and viewing options to the audiences. Take a look at GL for over the last 70 years, gone from radio to TV to Podcasts and now to Internet Video Demand; they will find ways to follow the viewers and attract new viewers as well. This is what all daytime soaps are currently doing from SoapNet to Direct TV to internet to other venues; just because ratings are down in the Nielsen figures (which I strongly believe it is the most inaccurate measurement system in the world), does not mean the network are moving fast to fire producers and headwriters. The network execs are looking at other figures such as internet counters, Soap Net cable ratings, podcast counters, advertisers responses, viewers responses, website counters correlating to the television viewership counts. There is a reason why Passions has reversed their cancellation by moving from NBC to Direct TV, which their 12-17 demo speaks volume.

All in all, daytime soaps is going through a long-transitional process to keep interests in the audiences. Do I believe the soap's Nielsen ratings should be higher? Yes, but I do believe the Nielsen figures are distorted and does not reflect the actual reality of the fans. How come I never got picked to do a rating surveys in my entire lifetime thus far? So ultimately, I will continue to be entertained by the soaps whether I like it or not, but that's the beauty of watching soaps, they want us to hate villains, love sluts, hate heros, love hunks, etc etc along with the stories they tell. This is why I love Guiding Light and it's rich 70-year history and looking forward to more years.

A little about my soap habit, I do seldom watch GH, OLTL, GH: Nightshift via SoapNet and keep tabs via magazines/internet on Y&R, B&B, ATWT and DAYS. But I currently avoid AMC and Passions because they are messes to the max right now. On a lighter note, I'm a huge fan of the past soaps of Santa Barbara, Generations, and Another World.

That's all for my rant-of-the-day.

From what I hear on Media Domain- it is going to only get worse. Allison supposedly will be a surrogate for Gwen and Will's baby after Gwen loses her baby. Just what we need. The wonderfull recast of Allison- a character I like- ruined only being there to further Gwen's story. Why did they bother to bring back Allison?[/

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Oh Gawd...geezzzzzzzzzzzzz......another reason why Jean Passanante should be fired! Why all the Gwen pimping? ENOUGH ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Plus, the Ava/Jonathan stuff is just gross to me and I am sick and tired of Fusion. I am so tired of Zendall and the new Greenlee sucks.

I think the new writers for AMC need to start focusing on other storylines and build them up a lot more than what they have. One big umbrella storyline isn't going to carry the show for the next year like they had wanted. I really had hoped they would come in and really mix things up and change a lot of what is going on with the show. How about a rival company for Fusion or the end of Fusion altogether? How about some characters returning like Jake Martin? How about making Kendall interesting again and giving her an edge and personality back???

I completely agree with all that you said. AMC needs to bring back characters who MEAN something to the viewers and create more stories around them... utilizing history. Otherwise, I don't think they will be able to bring back any of their lapsed viewers and from these ratings there seem to be a lot of them.

Good for Days. Up +1 from last week. Hopefully they can maintain or keep inching up. They are .1 away from 4th!

I am glad the other soaps managed to go up or maintain. especially Passions which had a great week. I am disappointed Y&R went up. The show is trash.

ATWT has basically stunk for the past 18 months. I loathe this JJ story -- from the kid, to Jack/Carly (and I love them), Brad/Katie. I FF through everything except Carly's fight with that bartender chick. The only actors worth watching are Craig, Lucinda, Susan, Alison, Vienna/Henry and Iris (at least, she has good one-liners). Maybe when Rosebud gets out of her bed, I can watch her. I fear the Nuke story is going to be a HUGE bust, which will be too bad.

I completely agree with all that you said. AMC needs to bring back characters who MEAN something to the viewers and create more stories around them... utilizing history. Otherwise, I don't think they will be able to bring back any of their lapsed viewers and from these ratings there seem to be a lot of them.

Ditto. I don't give a flying eff about the Fusion girls. The show's unrecognizable outside of Jack, Erica, Adam, and Tad. Jill Larson, Tonya Pinkins, and Jennifer Bassey each have more talent than all the Fusion babes put together, and they are glorified extras.

GL does not air in the Sacramento and Detroit market.

Actually, GL does air in Detroit at 10AM. It doesn't air in the Flint/Saginaw/Bay City market, however. But you're right, GL does have the worst timeslot clearance of any soap right now.

Anyway, good to see DAYS go up.

Good for Days. Up +1 from last week. Hopefully they can maintain or keep inching up. They are .1 away from 4th!

I am glad the other soaps managed to go up or maintain. especially Passions which had a great week. I am disappointed Y&R went up. The show is trash.

Unfortunately, Days went down in the demos and that's what the show really cares about. Not good news at all.

It doesn't air in the Flint/Saginaw/Bay City market, however.

That's actually incorrect. Through cable tv or digital antenna, WNEM does air Guiding Light at 10am on their second digital signal. Not exactly the same as being on WNEM, but GL does air in Flint/Saginaw/Bay City.

Jumpin Jack, thank you for correcting me and I wasn't sure if they were being aired in that market because I looked up the CBS affliates around the Detroit area and according to my research it showed that GL doesn't air there. Now I know that some of those local affiliate's websites are not updated.

All in all, it's a good thing that GL is in the Detroit market. Now if they would be aired in the Sacramento market.......