OMG GL is tied with All My FREAKING Children in women 18-49! The Fakelee hour is sinking All My Kids!

All I am saying if someone is going to make a claim that a certain pairing is driving the ratings then when the ratings go down that pairing has to share responsibility for the decrease also. If that pairing is so strong, then it shouldn't matter what kind of storyline they are in, the ratings should still be strong because they are so popular and the force that drives the show and the ratings. It bothers me when somebody says the ratings are this because such and such are together. Soaps don't work that way, IMHO.

Issues with posters sweeping comments aside... I consider Tad/Dixie maybe AMC's greatest couple ever, if they're involved in a weak story (and on top of that, it's not a really a story the show has them in the driver's seat for) and the numbers suck it's not going to make me say Tad and Dixie don't work. That has happened...and that's basically what I'm saying. The thing that will make me say a couple or character doesn't work is personally, individually me not liking the couple or character, typically not the ratings.

I don't think any one couple or character is entirely responsible for driving a show's ratings up or down. Of course I think a "good" storyline can sometimes drive the ratings up as I think a "bad" storyline can drive it down because on this show the main storyline (not storylines, lol) sucks up over 50% of the show, at the very least. So while Greenlee and that storyline may be turning me off the most right now (thank you, AMC, for calming her down a bit this week), it's the fact that a lot of the stuff on the show is not appealing to me in general at the moment (on the side of that) that is making me, personally, stray from the soap a little.

Rugrat i'm glad you are checking out Days...Bope have been so entertaining...They are the perfect example of how to write a happily married couple on a soap..I love them investigating together..I'm thinking Days will go up a few notches over the next few weeks...This has been a solid week for the show..

I watched the entire episode on Monday, and I believe I watched most of last Friday's. I'm DVR'ing the show whenever I read good B/H stuff in the DAYS thread. Tony has intrigued me in some of the previews I've seen, I expected him to be cartoonish (you know why, lol) and I love that he doesn't seem to be.

WOW Frons lookie here! GH lost over 296,000 viewers over last year at this time! I love this, after what he did to my beloved Sonny&Emily story and ending it early with a potato chip! I hope GH sinks and sinks farther into a abyss.

I'm sick and tired of this baby story. It has ounce again ruined any interest of any other character having a child on GH in the next yr or so!

GH sucks right now and the responsibility needs to rest on Frons head and not on one specific writer!

compared to the previous week, to 2006,2005, 2004

1.(1) Y&R 4.0 (same/-.1 /-.2 /-.1)

2.(2) B&B 2.9 (+.1/-.1/-.3 /-.3)

3.(3) GH 2.5 (same/-.2 /-.3 /-.7)

4.(4) AMC 2.3 (same/-.2 /-.4 /-.5)

4.(4) OLTL 2.3 (same/-.3/-.4 /-.4)

6.(6) DOOL 2.2 (+.1/-.3/-.3 /-.7)

6.(6) ATWT 2.2 (+.1/-.1/-.5 /-.5)

8.(8) GL 2.0 (+.1/-.1/-.4 /-.4)

9.(9) PSNS 1.5 (+.1/same/-.2 /-.3)

Hmm interesting...Y&R is only down one point from three years ago but all of the other soaps have suffered major losses losing at least three points. Even more interesting because a rating point is worth more than it was three years ago.

Edited June 21, 200718 yr by PJA

GH sucks right now and the responsibility needs to rest on Frons head and not on one specific writer!

If GH can stay out of first place in 18-49 through July sweeps... there might be a chance for you know what. I wonder how The View is doing these days, I know it had a decent May but what about June?

If GH can stay out of first place in 18-49 through July sweeps... there might be a chance for you know what. I wonder how is The View doing these days, I know it had a decent May but what about June?

I hear you! I can't tell you how much I want this. I have no idea on the View! It will be interesting to see.

I've never wanted to see a Soap Opera fail as much as GH! Frons is a manipulator/control freak. I keep thinking about the press release he did back in Jan/Feb about this being a good time for GH to spin off NS. He sucks!

I just want the fine actors on ABC to be able to produce a product that is interesting/entertaining to it's audience. Something that makes them dig deep into their craft. I feel sorry for the repetitive garbage they've been handed these last few years!

All of daytime is in the absolute gutter when it comes to ratings. Trying to pin a show's situation on one storyline is baseless because every friggin show is getting horrendous numbers. And quite frankly, most deserved.

Hmm interesting...Y&R is only down one point from three years ago but all of the other soaps have suffered major losses losing at least three points. Even more interesting because a rating point is worth more than it was three years ago.

Those decreases are tenths of a point and not a whole ratings point. Example...

"Y&R" (2004)...4.1 rating

"Y&R" (2005)...4.2 rating

"Y&R" (2006)...4.1 rating

"Y&R" (2007)...4.0 rating

When put into perspective like that, the loses are not as severe. The declines may even mirror the declines for the broadcast network's primetime audience as well.

While the daytime genre has certainly seen better days, I think it is premature to begin sounding a death knell.

Wow, I just noticed that all the ABC soaps fell and the CBS/NBC soaps all gained!! Boy, that Frons is a GENIUS!! I don't watch GH but is it that bad right now??

It looks like LML not only works her voodoo magic on her cast but the Nielsen ratings and perhaps some fans, too. Ha, ha! I only kid.

I know this isn't soap related, but does anybody know what rating TPIR got for Bob Barker's final show? If it went up on that Friday by any significant amount, the CBS soaps' ratings for that day don't seem to reflect it.

Edited June 21, 200718 yr by crc

I definitely think Greenlee's return is in part responsible for the drop in AMC's ratings. This storyline should never have been approved since the Ryan/Greenlee pairing was not really popular in the first place. I know Frons thinks Ryan/Annie are some kind of supercouple, but the fan response online at least has always been cold to them.

I hope the new writers will have enough power to change things by getting rid of Greenlee, Annie, Ava, and Jonathan, for starters. I think the show really needs to be refocused around the Martins and Chandlers instead of the Laverys and Careys.

If GH can stay out of first place in 18-49 through July sweeps... there might be a chance for you know what. I wonder how The View is doing these days, I know it had a decent May but what about June?

Ask and you shall receive

The View

May 29 - June 1

Monday 2.8

Tuesday 3.5

Wednesday 3.2

Thursday 3.2

Friday 2.7

Weekly Average 3.1

June 5 - 9

Monday 3.0

Tuesday 2.6

Wednesday 2.7

Thursday 2.7

Friday 2.5

Weekly Average 2.7

June 12 - 16

Monday 2.7

Tuesday 2.9

Wednesday 2.6

Thursday 2.7

Friday 2.7

Weekly Average 2.7

Edited June 21, 200718 yr by Lskreet

the view was getting 3.5 with Rosie..oh well, she is gone now

daytime now as a whole is not what it used to be 20 years ago. blame it on internet, 150+ cable channels and constant pre emptions/breaking news cutting in(lack of respect ,imo).

I would like to see if possible Talk shows/daytime game shows/judge shows. would like to see a whole picture of daytime. I think that soaps are way above some talk shows and judge whatever. oprah i think is the only show that gets numbers above 6.0

Edited June 21, 200718 yr by mamasita

If you want demos for The View

Women 18-49 (5/28 - 6/1)

1.7

Women 18-49 (6/5 - 6/9)

1.3

Women 18-49 (6/11 - 6/15)

1.3

If you want demos for The View

Women 18-49 (5/28 - 6/1)

1.7

Women 18-49 (6/5 - 6/9)

1.3

Women 18-49 (6/11 - 6/15)

1.3

Thank you for these! Ahhhh.....[!@#$%^&*] Frons, things aren't looking to good!