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ATWT: Monday June 11th discussion


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First of all ATWTCarOn, your beginning comment was uncalled for. No one is "hating" on you, they're put off by your attitude. If you can't post at SON without making a martyr of yourself and being so condescending, then you should post somewhere else.

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Well the parts I saw were pretty boring, but I had my sound down for most of the show(was calling to change cable service) so I could not see all of it. I thought the violence on today's show smelled of JP so bad it makes me want to stop watching this show all together, if is not Will and Gwen or Katie and Jack having sex everywhere than it is violence of some sort, and i am sick of it. Where the hell are Luke and Noah at????? Great way to start a new character and storyline never friggen show them :angry: I did see the Faith thing at the end and I agree it was not well done at all, and just added to the over violent show it already was. Don't get me wrong violence and sex are part of soaps, but does everything have to be that, I think not. This is not ATWT.

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Two words.

GO CARLY.

Were the Snyders always this moral and judgmental? Lordy, Jack needs a giant can of STFU because I seem to remember AFTER his amnesia, he wasn't exactly being the perfect dad. So I think he can cut Carly some slack, especially since she is trying to own up to her mistakes. I mean I like Jack and all but he seemed pretty out of line to me today.

Oh and am I imagining things or did Dusty call Ali "Ali cat" when he was comforting her?

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I so wanted Carly to bring up amnesia Jack the jerk today. I really hope that comes out yet. I still love Jack but he is being such a jerk right now. I am totally in Carly's corner and everybody better watch out that gets in her path when she's got her dander up! :o They're so much more fun to watch even when they are fighting than most of the other couples are when they are making love.

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I totally forgot to mention the luminous CZP. Holy snikes, Batman, that woman just keeps looking better and better. I'm glad she managed to have a scene with Will, and not just pigeon-holed as Gwen and Cleo's handholder.

Yeah...Dusty did call Ali, "Ali-cat"...is that her porn name or something? :lol:

What Jack says sounds reasonable, in relation to Carly seeing the kids. It's what he does that sucks. He just "ended" Carly's first over-night with the kids because Parker was upset and "ran away" to Al's. He chewed Carly out when he found her passed out (at Milltown) and that she'd been drinking with Brad, accusing her of having sex with Brad. He told Carly he wouldn't restrict Katie's contact with the kids, because "they didn't need to have another person run out on them." Jack isn't listening to JJ at all, who doesn't want Katie around, period.

Yeah, Parker's got a lot of problems related to Carly's leaving...but he's learned to "handle" his anger at Carly from Jack. Which basically means, "I don't have to listen to her, I don't have to deal with her, and I don't have to apologize for that attitude either."

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Sorry Ryan but I didn't get so much as word as to why I was banned so my only guess is that certain members who were mad that I didn't subscribe to their doom and gloom view when it comes to ATWT complained and got me banned.

As for my attitude I'm nice to everyone and I respect everyones opinions on this board. Unless I feel like someone is attacking me because I don't happen to feel that CarJack is the be all end all for the show. OR they make assumptions like, "Oh he doesn't respect the history of the show" or "he doesn't care if the vets are on". Anyways I apologize to you for the comment.

Tomorrow looks excellent. I just can't wait for Carly to b*tch out Katie and Jack.

And yeah I'm REALLY scared for JJ AND Parker. These kids are f'ed up and I was literally on edge everytime I saw that freaking gun on set. I mean really JJ's "you're going to pay" scared the heck out of me. Anyways ATWT is really looking good lately. My only complaint is that we haven't seen Luke/Noah/Maddie and Susan/Emily. And I must say Susan's scenes on Friday were awesome. Thats a perfect example of a vet being used in an excellent manner within a crucial storyline.

Now I just Barbara to have story on her own and I'll be happy. Shes young enough to still find true love. Just don't make the guy a psycho like Susan's previous guy interest.

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I can understand Jack feeling that Carly will only put the kids in a situation where they may get their hopes up, only for her to leave again; and how he wants to protect them from that; however, his little attitude was grating on my nerves.

First off, he fails to remember (maybe that amnesia comes back whenever he deems not to remember his own faults) that when he returned back after getting his memory back, he treated Parker like dirt under his own feet, showering all the praise to JJ as if JJ was his first born and NOT the child of some woman that manipulated him to make him a insta-daddy. Whenever Parker would ask for time to spend together, it was always "Well, Parker, I planned something with JJ, maybe next time."

Second of all, Jack isn't even caring that his children (at least JJ or Parker) aren't all that thrilled by Katie coming into their lives. Jack calls Carly selfish; and yes she was selfish in many ways in putting Simon first; but Jack's selfish as well...he' would rather do the Torrid Tabletop with Katie than even care how his children feel...just the way he talks to them just tells me that he is going to regret a lot of how he's been acting....I know Parke is going to put him through wringer.

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If that translates to "Katie-love"......uh, maybe. :lol: I can admit when Carly's wrong...it's just in this instance, she's less wrong than Jack. I can't get over how Jack is just ignoring JJ's and Sage's needs. "Protecting" them is one thing. Denying them time with Carly is wrong. Whether they were together or not, over numerous years, Carly has never shut Jack out of Parker's life. (She's never shut anyone out of Parker's life, no matter how she felt about them...Molly, John, Rosanna.) I don't care how many "bad" decisions Carly made...they are her children, and she doesn't deserve to be shut out of their lives. God, Emily doesn't even deserve to be denied her child, and she's tried to murder two people and been a whore.

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omg Maura West is on FIRE - she has been absolutely amazing since her return. She's always good, but there's a real spark with her right now. She and Michael Park absolutely kicked ass in today's show, that was awesome! This really needs to be bookmarked for them both for consideration in next year's Emmy reels. CarJack has the best fights, lol!

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