Ok, JSF, you have GOT to get over your "Wildwind" rant.

Wildwind is like 90's classic AMC. Wildwind is an estate - a mansion. Its a 90's AMC icon.

You can't hate on the name...and as a newer fan, you can't appreciate the name or it's place in AMC history.

So GET OVER THAT

Ok, JSF, you have GOT to get over your "Wildwind" rant.

Wildwind is like 90's classic AMC. Wildwind is an estate - a mansion. Its a 90's AMC icon.

You can't hate on the name...and as a newer fan, you can't appreciate the name or it's place in AMC history.

So GET OVER THAT

I can try to appreciate the mansion's place in the show's history, but I do wish they wouldn't say the name of the house in almost every breath. (It seems that way, anyhow). Why can't they, like normal people, say "Meet you back at the house?" or, "Annie and Emma are going to move in with us!" I just take a moral opposition to flaunting "Wildwind" as if they're pompous about it. "Ooh, we live in a huge mansion with a name, Wildwind, and YOU DON'T!!! HAHAHAH HAHHAHAH HAHHAHH." I know they're NOT saying it like that, but in the back of my mind, that's what I hear.

I can't help it.

I would still say Ryan is hung up on her. He ran towards her as soon as she found out that she was in danger and has completely gotten over his anger towards her. He doesn't even care about the emma thing anymore. So yes I would say he is back to kissing Kendell's red pumps. His "I care nothing for you" and "where over's" are long forgotten.

I don't know. She would have to find out about the time JR cheated on her with the girl named Susie for us see her react to that. This is the type of stuff that makes no sense to me. Why is JR allowed to cheat on Babe (JR's logic) and then Babe cheating on him is a criminal offense that warrants drugging, gaslighting, framming, fabricating and blackmail? It makes no sense to me why JR is allowed to sleep with a cheap tart from a bar yet Babe is seemingly burned at the stake and "isnt fit to parent" based on her doing the excat same thing he did.

who is Susie and when did he sleep with her? I wasnt watching AMC for a bit during the fall so most likely missed this. Oh and my comments werent strictly about what Babe did; it was also about Krystal which Babe used that line to justify her mother's actions

Edited February 4, 200718 yr by Cheap21

I can try to appreciate the mansion's place in the show's history, but I do wish they wouldn't say the name of the house in almost every breath. (It seems that way, anyhow). Why can't they, like normal people, say "Meet you back at the house?" or, "Annie and Emma are going to move in with us!" I just take a moral opposition to flaunting "Wildwind" as if they're pompous about it. "Ooh, we live in a huge mansion with a name, Wildwind, and YOU DON'T!!! HAHAHAH HAHHAHAH HAHHAHH." I know they're NOT saying it like that, but in the back of my mind, that's what I hear.

I can't help it.

bc normal people dont live in a damn castle! lol When they say Wildwind, EVERYone knows what they are talking about. Like alwaysAMC said, its a classic, just like on OLTL they always refer to Viki's house as Llanfair and Dorian's LaBoulae. Its just something rich folks can do

And I would say anyone who says I care nothing for you to the mother of your child, the one who was ready to die for your son is enough. I would say Kendall saying things like "you are such a good man and would never abandon your family" when not only did Ryan abandon his siblings he abandoned a pregnant Greenlee and was perfectly willing to leave a pregnant Kendall so him and Greenlee could move and start a new family is boot licking. Ryan has treated Kendall and Greenlee in such a disgusting manner and I can never interpert his behaviour as bootlicking. Cameron Mathison himself said at SSW he does not understand how Ryan is considered a good guy. Look up some transcripts where Ryan calls Kendall a soulless cancer, that someday some man was going to have to choke her to death just to stay sane so sorry if I don't believe Ryan's conditional in love and out of love behaviour as bootlicking but as abusive. Once again I say not wanting someone actively dead is not bootlicking. Maybe we just define bootlicking differently and not wanting someone dead in my head is what makes you a human being not a bootlicker.

Speaking of criminal offenses. Ryan and Josh drug a man and keep him against his will and Kendall keeps a sperm donor secret and she's burned at the stake but Ryan and Josh are heroes?

Great post! I really find Ryan's love to be conditional and Greenlee/Kendall/Annie would be better off without his kind of love. Heck even Spike and Emma would be better off without Daddy Dearest. I really don't see Ryan as a hero...an arse maybe but hero Same goes with Josh

Edited February 4, 200718 yr by Laurie

double post

JR slept with Suzie when he was drunk at his own bachelor party, but JR NEVER cheated on Babe during both marriages which Babe has!

And I would say anyone who says I care nothing for you to the mother of your child, the one who was ready to die for your son is enough. I would say Kendall saying things like "you are such a good man and would never abandon your family" when not only did Ryan abandon his siblings he abandoned a pregnant Greenlee and was perfectly willing to leave a pregnant Kendall so him and Greenlee could move and start a new family is boot licking. Ryan has treated Kendall and Greenlee in such a disgusting manner and I can never interpert his behaviour as bootlicking. Cameron Mathison himself said at SSW he does not understand how Ryan is considered a good guy. Look up some transcripts where Ryan calls Kendall a soulless cancer, that someday some man was going to have to choke her to death just to stay sane so sorry if I don't believe Ryan's conditional in love and out of love behaviour as bootlicking but as abusive. Once again I say not wanting someone actively dead is not bootlicking. Maybe we just define bootlicking differently and not wanting someone dead in my head is what makes you a human being not a bootlicker.

Speaking of criminal offenses. Ryan and Josh drug a man and keep him against his will and Kendall keeps a sperm donor secret and she's burned at the stake but Ryan and Josh are heroes?

WORD!

I love now how disgusted Kendall is with Ryass. I think she finally is seeing him for who he really is. She was right on the money today, he should be protecting Spike not her.

WORD!

I love now how disgusted Kendall is with Ryass. I think she finally is seeing him for who he really is. She was right on the money today, he should be protecting Spike not her.

thats what he did by taking him away from Zach and Kendall

Speaking of criminal offenses. Ryan and Josh drug a man and keep him against his will and Kendall keeps a sperm donor secret and she's burned at the stake but Ryan and Josh are heroes?

WORD!

I love now how disgusted Kendall is with Ryass. I think she finally is seeing him for who he really is. She was right on the money today, he should be protecting Spike not her.

thats what he did by taking him away from Zach and Kendall

And then he had no problem at all USING Spike so he can distract Kendall while he and Josh drugged Zach against his will. I suppose if the Budget Cut Kill-- um, Satin Slayer had harmed Spike while he was with Kendall, Ryan would blame Zach because of the piss poor security as well.

And then he had no problem at all USING Spike so he can distract Kendall while he and Josh drugged Zach against his will. I suppose if the Budget Cut Kill-- um, Satin Slayer had harmed Spike while he was with Kendall, Ryan would blame Zach because of the piss poor security as well.

when he took Spike to live with him, he never said that Kendall wasnt allowed to see her son at all. That would have been completely unreasonable. Besides protecting Kendall = protecting Spike

Edited February 6, 200718 yr by Cheap21

when he took Spike to live with him, he never said that Kendall wasnt allowed to see her son at all. That would have been completely unreasonable. Besides protecting Kendall = protecting Spike

That makes no sense. The Budget Cut Killer's gonna say "Hmmm... she's only visiting Spike, so I won't kill her or hurt him. But the minute he's living with her again... DANGER!!"

If Kendall's a danger to Spike at the Slater's house, Kendall's a danger to Spike at the Slater's casino. So leaving Kendall with Spike ANY place is placing him in danger.

when he took Spike to live with him, he never said that Kendall wasnt allowed to see her son at all.

Yes he did. He said she could come live with him and Spike and Annie and Emma at the penthouse and she said she was not going to leave Zach and that he needed her so then Ryan said she had to stay away from Spike until it was safe. Whatever they say Ryan's reasons were it all said to me that Ryan had to punish Kendall for choosing to stay with Zach. How is living with Spike at the penthouse OK but not visiting him at the penthouse? Bad writing.

I also think Ryan is just being badly written. The way they never show Ryan with Spike when he made such a big deal about him being safe is just straight up bad and lazy writing though Ryan forgetting about Spike because of Emma is actually really in character. He tends to fall in and out of love quite fast.

If you want I will go look up the transcript for you.

Yes he did. He said she could come live with him and Spike and Annie and Emma at the penthouse and she said she was not going to leave Zach and that he needed her so then Ryan said she had to stay away from Spike until it was safe. Whatever they say Ryan's reasons were it all said to me that Ryan had to punish Kendall for choosing to stay with Zach. How is living with Spike at the penthouse OK but not visiting him at the penthouse? Bad writing.

I also think Ryan is just being badly written. The way they never show Ryan with Spike when he made such a big deal about him being safe is just straight up bad and lazy writing though Ryan forgetting about Spike because of Emma is actually really in character. He tends to fall in and out of love quite fast.

If you want I will go look up the transcript for you.

^ What she said