WOW!! What a shocker! I thought eventually GA would beat CSI, but I don't think anyone thought it would happen this early. Congrats to Stephen McPhearson, Shonda Rhimes and everyone at GA. I'm so happy about this. I believe this is the first time since 2004 that a non reality tv show beat CSI in the ratings. Anyone know what show was #1 in the ratings before CSI took over in 2004?

HHs

1. Grey's Anatomy - 17.1/25

2. CSI - 14.9/22

Total Viewers

1. Grey's Anatomy - 25.14 million

2. CSI - 22.04 million

Adults 18-49

1. Grey's Anatomy - 10.9/26

2. CSI - 7.5/18

Total Viewers

1. Grey’s Anatomy 25.1 million

2. CSI 22.0 million

3. Survivor 17.3 million

4. ER 15.6 million

5. Shark 15 million

6. Grey’s Anatomy Clip Show 13.5 million

7. Six Degrees 13.3 million

8. Deal or No Deal 10.1 million

9. The Office 9.1 million

10. My Name is Earl 8.9 million

11. Til Death 5.9 million

12. Happy Hour 4.4 million

13. Celebrity Duets 3.3 million

Households

1. Grey’s Anatomy 17.1/25

2. CSI 14.9/22

3. Shark 11.1/17

4. ER 11.0/17

5. Grey’s Anatomy Clip Show 10.5/16

6. Survivor 10.2/16

7. Six Degrees 9.3/15

8. Deal or No Deal 6.5/10

9. My Name is Earl 6.4/10

10. The Office 6.2/9

11. ‘Til Death 4.4/7

12. Happy Hour 3.3/5

13. Celebrity Duets 2.7/4

18-49

1. Grey’s Anatomy 10.9/26

2. CSI 7.5/18

3. ER 6.8/18

4. Survivor 6.4/18

5. Six Degrees 5.8/15

6. Grey’s Anatomy Clip Show 4.8/13

7. The Office 4.3/11

8. Shark 4.2/11

9. My Name is Earl 3.7/11

10. Deal or No Deal 3.5/9

11. Til Death 2.2/7

12. Happy Hour 1.7/4

13. Celebrity Duets 1.2/3

CW aired repeats

Curios about 2 things:

1) Do you think Desperate Housewives could and will top Grey's Anatomy in overall ratings?

2) Will NBC's Sunday Night Football cause problems for Desperate Housewives and Brothers and Sisters?

Curios about 2 things:

1) Do you think Desperate Housewives could and will top Grey's Anatomy in overall ratings?

Unfortunately not. I just have a feeling its over for HOUSEWIVES. I've not seen a single spoiler that indicates it will return to its former glory. Add SUNDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL as competition and you're pretty much asking for trouble.

I'm giving it the season opener to prove itself and that's it. I can't afford to waste another season watching it.

And that's a shame, because I HATE GREY'S!

I hate Grey's, too! And so does Neal Baer!

As for Desperate, I hear Jeff Greenstein has joined the staff. Yuhoo!

Curios about 2 things:

1) Do you think Desperate Housewives could and will top Grey's Anatomy in overall ratings?

2) Will NBC's Sunday Night Football cause problems for Desperate Housewives and Brothers and Sisters?

Question 1: Not this week but I would hardly say its over. Early reviews are that DH is going back to what made it successful in the opening season. More interraction between the main cast and above all funny. All the promos/spoilers I've read sound IMO amazing. Marc Cherry knows last season was a failure. I am confident he will return this show to its former glory.

I don't think Football will pose as big of a threat as some would think. We will see.

Erarly buzz is good, promos have been airing like crazy.

I am predicting DH will attract somewhere between 20-23 million viewers.

I think DH has hit its peak in the ratings during its first season.

Then when NBC airs The Black Donnelly's during mid-season, it'll be 8 shows.

Bah! I'm boycotting that crap. New York mobsters, pfft!

I don't think Football will pose as big of a threat as some would think. We will see.

women always seem to control the remote, so I dont think this will effect anything.

if that makes me more knowledagble than you...I guess I have to accept that.

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DH at its lowest last season still had a rating in the range of 14.5; I wouldn't be surprised if they can muster a rating higher than GA's 15.7 for the premiere unless for some reason football ends up affecting it a ton. So far there's been a lot of positive buzz around season 3 so I'm looking forward to it (and I have to admit I enjoyed season 2, though it plays out better on DVD without the month-long breaks).

This article pretty much sums it up:

http://www.zap2it.com/news/zap-greysanatom...0,4203002.story

The Thursday night ratings war will likely rage throughout the season, but ABC, fueled by "Grey's Anatomy," has won the first battle.

What was supposed to be the season's most heated confrontation turned out not to be, because on Thursday (Sept. 21) night, the season premiere of ABC's "Grey's Anatomy" trounced the first episode of CBS' reigning procedural champ "CSI: Crime Scene Investigation" in all key measures.

According to final Nielsen figures, "Grey's Anatomy" averaged 25.4 million viewers for the 9 p.m. hour, far more than the 22.6 million for "CSI."

Most industry observers had expected "CSI," television's top scripted show last season, to win in overall measurements, with the ABC medical drama closing the gap in the younger demographics. Instead, "Anatomy" won overall and just expanded the margin as viewers got younger. Among adults 18-49, "Anatomy" did an 11.0 rating, 43 percent higher than the 7.7 for "CSI." Among adults 18-34, the difference was up to 88 percent, with "Anatomy" doing a 10.7 rating to the 5.7 rating for "CSI."

ABC proudly boasted that this was the first scripted non-finale series ever to draw a larger audience than "CSI" in original Thursday head-to-head competition and contributed to ABC's strongest opening Thursday of a season in viewers and young adults in at least 15 years.

It helped that the 8 p.m. clip special "Grey's Anatomy: Complications of the Heart" drew 13.7 million viewers and did a 5.0 rating in the 18-49 demo. It remains to be seen how "Anatomy" will perform once the earlier slot's normal occupant, "Ugly Betty," premieres next week.

Signs were a bit less rapturous for the premiere of ABC's endlessly hyped "Six Degrees." The drama took that "Anatomy" lead-in and plummeted to 12.6 million viewers and a 5.4 demographic rating, splitting the hour with the series premiere of "Shark," which averaged more viewers (14.74 million), but fewer young ones (4.1 demo rating). CBS could boast that "Shark" is now the season's most watched new show, while ABC was getting excited about its strongest Thursday night scripted series debut in total viewers and adults 18-49 since 1994.

For all of the ABC hype, CBS actually remained the most watched network for the night overall with an average of 18.29 million viewers to ABC's 17.4 million. ABC's 7.2 rating in the 18-49 demo was 18 percent higher than CBS' 6.1 rating.

CBS and ABC weren't the only networks programming on Thursday, though.

NBC, which had a longtime stranglehold on Thursdays, got solid 8 p.m. hour performances from the second season premiere of "My Name Is Earl" (8.9 million viewers, 3.8 demo rating) and the third season launch of "The Office" (9.1 million viewers, 4.3 demo). Facing a somewhat lighter 10 p.m. foe with "Without a Trace" shipped to Sundays, the venerable "ER" premiered to 15.6 million viewers and a 6.8 demo rating, winning the hour in both measures.

In its regular morning ratings release, normally boisterous FOX noted simply, "FOX was not a factor last night."

About a year or two ago, I would agree with you but the last half of last year the show recovered creatively big time. It returned focus back to the ER rather then African and such and they have a rootable couple in Luka/Abby. The season finale and premiere for this year were superb and next week looks amazing. As long as it continues to do well and hold it's own, ER is going nowhere. I was so close to tuning out at the end of season 11 but now I find it better then Grey's Anatomy, which I feel is overrated but that IMO so to each his or her own

I knew there was a reason I stopped watching, I can't stand luka and abby. There one of the reasons I stopped watching ER in the first place.

I knew there was a reason I stopped watching, I can't stand luka and abby. There one of the reasons I stopped watching ER in the first place.

Well that is your opinion but many actually are back into the show because of them. It is obvious by the ratings for the finale and the premiere (which featured major focus on Luka and Abby) that they are working and are helping the show big time.

Oh well-to each their own

Well that is your opinion but many actually are back into the show because of them. It is obvious by the ratings for the finale and the premiere (which featured major focus on Luka and Abby) that they are working and are helping the show big time.

Oh well-to each their own

But can you really say they helped the ratings when ER on top of its game had almost 30 million viewers now its half of that???? Thats an awful big decrease.

But can you really say they helped the ratings when ER on top of its game had almost 30 million viewers now its half of that???? Thats an awful big decrease.

Right but Luka/Abby started after the decrease. The decrease was due to all the Africa stuff and focus shifting outside of the ER. Midway through last season, the focus went back to the ER (with a one or two Dalfur episodes thrown in with Carter) and then Luka/Abby began to slowly come back together and the show just steadily improved. The finale was amazing and the premiere showed it wasn't a fluke. My point is ER saw an increase in numbers which can be attributed to no competition from Without a Trace and from the show having a bit of a creative renissance. The show has it's heart and soul back in the Luka/Abby pairing and ER needs a signature couple as an emotional center. Maybe Luka/Abby is not why the ratings increased a bit but they have created lots of positive buzz and, after awhile, that can translate into increases.

I would encourage anyone who previously watched it or who is searching for something to fill their 10:00 hour to tune it. I have read a few story plans and this year sounds amazing and it has already been amazing. Now if you don't like Luka/Abby or some of the other characters/actors, then I would suggest not tuning in but, other then that, give it a whirl. It really is in a resurgence IMO and I was one who was ready to quit watching early last year.

You can't blame the ratings decrease on Africa alone. I think the last episode I watched was when carter went to paris(???) and got back with his girlfriend, I really liked them as a couple.

You can't blame the ratings decrease on Africa alone. I think the last episode I watched was when carter went to paris(???) and got back with his girlfriend, I really liked them as a couple.

I wasn't blaming it on Africa alone. I think going outside the ER hurt alot and that combined with the creative lull the show was in due to so many stars leaving is what created the decrease. Also, the show became too dependent on shock and awe (Romano losing his arm, the tank, airplane and helicopter crashes, etc) so that hurt as well. It certainly can't be blamed on Luka/Abby. If anything, it was Carter/Abby because they were a couple during so much of this. I did like Carter and his girlfriend. They worked real well together.

ER just got hurt by too many fan faves leaving and very stiff competition that never existed on Thursday night's against them before. Now they have very little competition at that hour so if they deliver they could see big results this year. No repeats and a cliffhanger in December will also help. I love the fact the show is focusing on a smaller cast again and they have some great cast additions and guest appearances coming up. As I said, this is looking to be the best season since the days of Anthony Edwards so I am excited and would suggest the show to anyone right now.

Again, if you don't like Luka/Abby, I understand why you would choose not to watch so it's cool .