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I really love your recaps YRBB. Keep them coming. No comment because I really hate this season and these storylines, but I’m looking forward to you getting to season 12.

Please. Don’t sympathize with these suits. They are cunning.

No, I don’t want a spin-off. Just let it die. Roseanne without Roseanne isn’t Roseanne.

Watching Ames McNamara WAS like watching young Sara Gilbert.... I think that’s the worst part. He was only going to get better.

The cast wasn’t returning. There was no way to go on.

There was no option. ABC shouldn’t be praised or criticized for the decision. It was simply recognizing reality.

Wow. +1

I'm so heartbroken. I really think this would have hit its stride next season. But ABC pretty much had no choice. There was no way the show could go on. I'm torn between wishing it had never come back at all so its legacy wouldn't be tarnished like this and feeling thankful that we at least got this short revival -- bittersweet as it was. I think Roseanne is an incredibly complex and flawed person but I will always have respect for her as an artist. I'm sure she probably did much worse than this in the 90s, and we just don't know about it. I'm wondering if the internet was such a good idea after all.

Watching season 2 of Knots is just fascinating. I love what this show became, but watching season 2 I wonder what it could have been. I love the episodes that show show multiple couples in the same position. I just watched one where Valene is involved with Earl Trent, and Laura is involved with Scooter Warren, and Richard and Gary react in interesting ways. This is Show was great because The couples’ storylines have matching themes but they don’t beat you over the head with it. I love all these characters. I adore the Karen/Sid dynamic and I think it works better than the Karen/Mack dynamic ever did. I am going to be devastated when Sid dies... he really is a loveable character. Donna Mills steals every scene she is in. In the episode I just watched, with Laura and Val not cheating after their husbands cheated, she is a bit much with Gary. It is interesting that this show decided not to do the Gary/Abby affair before it did.

They definitely need to address Andy just to give Laurie Metcalf more to do. The only big episode she had was the Bev episode, and it's just not enough. We need as much Laurie Metcalf as we can get. My head backstory for Andy was that he was in and out of rehab for heroin and Jackie finally just cut him out of her life... and nobody mentions it because it is too painful.

I watched season 4, season 5, and then I was so into season 6... and then it got deleted. And then MOST of it was re-uploaded, so I went back to it after a brief thirtysomething excursion... And I saw Abby launch a giant floppy disk into a computer, only to find out that Valene's babies were Gary's, her perfectly made up, beautiful face reflecting in the freeze frame of the episode, beckoning me to go further into Knots' most-watched season. And then the next episode was deleted by YouTube. Even though most of the season was there, I already knew how the season turned out. I wanted to watch the beats of it, which had thus far been fantastic. But knowing that would be impossible, I turned back. Back to season 2 Knots. And how fabulous season 2 Knots is. This show is absolutely quaint, in the most possibly charming way. Everybody gets good moments. Don Murray gets good moments of being that impossibly good, moral guy. You root for him. He always wants the best in people and is just so kind to everyone. Karen is almost too pro-active for Knots Landing. This is a woman who knows what she wants and won't be denied. Valene grows so much in this season. She wants to be a good spouse for Gary, but also doesn't want to be a fly on the wall. We see a little bit of Lilimae when she tells J.R. how awful he is and to stay away from Gary. Laura is trying to make her marriage with Richard work for her son's sake, even though her husband is not offering much. Richard is tragically emasculated by Laura and lashing out at her. Kim Lankford is beautiful and talented as the doomed Ginger. Donna Mills is writing Abby's backstory before our eyes, stealing every scene she is in. Her chemistry with Larry Hagman is off the charts. Her feud with Michele Lee's Karen is bubbling under the radar. She relishes in getting called "such a slut" by Constance McCashin's Laura. Ted Shackleford's Gary is completely stupid, but understandably so. James Houghton is just there. This season is just so well put together. You would not have Michael being learning disabled as a major storyline in today's shows. And in season 2 Knots, it is a major story, and it is so well done. You would not get Gary falling for Judy Trent over multiple episodes. You would not get Val getting her degree over multiple episodes. You would not get Abby clearly pining over Gary, but not actually making her move until the next season. Knots Landing season 2 is a slowly plotted gem. Watching this, one wonders what could have been had this show remained Scenes From Four Marriages. They did it expertly in season 2. They nailed the nuts and bolts that most shows would ignore.

I knew the Muslim neighbor looked familiar and I finally placed her. She was hilarious on Curb in the Palestinian Chicken episode. Hope we see more of them...

They had a spark in the beginning. The problem was when Jack lost his rough edges and became Officer Jesus. Then they were insufferable.

Luckily this is now back online. Can I just say it’s disgusting that I have to stream this illegally? This is absolutely one of the best TV shows of all time. i have caught lazy writing in it. Gary was ready to divorce Abby and changed his mind in five seconds. But this cast and these writers just sell everything so well. I forgive them. For now I forgive them: onward with season 6. There will come a time when I won’t forgive them (I know, because I’ve watched the series before, but not in at least ten years) but I won’t think about that yet.

His plan requires legislative action no matter what (i.e. nothing will come of it no matter who wins congress.) This is spin. Only people paying the minimum rent (currently $50) would see their rents triple under Carson’s plan. And I say, good. Nobody should be paying $50 in rent...

Ugh... the apolune vaults channel got taken off YouTube. I had just finished season 5 and was 3 episodes into season 6 and super addicted. please PM me if you know where else I can watch this show. I’m so pissed.

Well, we don’t really know, but it seems like anything from season 9 is stricken from the canon.

Of course she would be. Though I think lesbev isn’t canon anymore.

The Bev characterization was all wrong. That annoyed me. She’s supposed to be a total prude. I don’t know why I can accept Roseanne’s character as an evolution of 90s Roseanne, and not Bev, but it was just off to me. The David plot was just too sloppy. This needed to be a two parter and they needed more dramatic moments and a better reason for David not being there. i would have given him a drug or alcohol addiction. And I wouldn’t have had Darlene change her mind so quickly. This could/should have been a real tearjerker. But it was like foreplay that never led anywhere. My least fave episode so far because it could have been so much better.

Old people do this though. When I was in my 20s my grandmother asked me why I had to move so far away. “Um grandmother, you moved across the ocean from your parents when you were my age,” I wanted to say. I remembered the spanking episode, and that’s what I took it as. Old people remembering things inaccurately/exaggerating to make a point. people are taking this revival too seriously. Almost all of the media takes on it from both sides have been obnoxious.

I knew how it was pronounced because of the 50s episode... one of the few late season gimmicks (the only?) that worked IMO.

Why was that? It never came across to me onscreen. Though they obviously wrote Becky differently based on who was playing her.

ATWT doomed by B&B premiere is surely BS, as ATWT beat B&B in the ratings for, what, 8 years following that? But ATWT was probably doomed by other things. Bad demos. Declining ratings for soaps in general. Lack of interest in the show from P&G. Still, not an excuse for Goutman, who pretty much gave up circa 2005. Absolutely. The 2000 episode Goutman directed where Katie is confronted by her stalker and forced to confess to sabotaging Molly is damn good. I watched it recently and it is soap opera at its most soapoperiest.

I can see the argument that ATWT was likely doomed no matter what — but Chris Goutman seems to have accepted this and stayed on to collect his paycheck anyway. Chris Goutman has talent. I recently watched an episode he directed in 2000 and it was great — high production values, suspense, the whole nine yards. I was shocked, because he had the show on autopilot the last 5-6 years. It was likely doomed no matter what. But if he wasn’t going to try to save it, he should have stepped aside and let someone else try (then again, we could have ended up with Peapack, so maybe I should shut up.)

The problem was that soaps, and ATWT in particular, were too conservative to honestly do a gay storyline. If I’d been writing it, Luke and his daddy issues would have had a hot and torrid affair with Lucinda’s husband Brian (was that his name? Laurence Lau’s character.) it would have been a great storyline, with characters conflicted over whether they were homophobic or just angry at Luke for being a home wrecker. In any case, it was unrealistic for Luke to just shut Brian down immediately.... Laurence Lau is a good looking guy. The average twink would have at least considered it.