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Just watched tomorrow’s episode.

The words ‘flat’, ‘ham’ and ‘fisted’ and ‘altar’ come to mind.

They don’t even seem to be trying with character and dialogue anymore.

The GCAC was an infinitely better set than the Grand Phoenix. Certainly more spacious and less gaudy.

Jodie Whittaker is a versatile, powerful actor and under proper writing, could have thrived in the role.

Chris Chibnall, however, was a poor fit for the show. 
 

I have a really bad feeling the BBC are going to ‘assess’ how series 13 goes, and decide on whether to carry the show on or call it a day.

They’ve had 15 years of relative-huge success, and have cast a female Doctor. The argument may be made during the year that they’ve achieved all they could.

15 hours ago, Broderick said:

(You could usually tell from the very first scene if Kathryn Foster had directed a particular episode, because her episodes were typically prettier and more visually appealing than any of the other directors' work.  Y&R REALLY missed the boat by not naming Kathryn Foster as executive producer, in my opinion.)  

Spot on. I’m guessing the ship has sailed on that one?

Or did she migrate with Edward Scott to B&B?

For some reason, I’m imagining seeing her name appear on DAYS’ credits when Ed Scott was Exec Producer there.

She was another who got Y&R as well as being a talent in her own right.

Want to jazz it up to reflect the times? Add a ‘None Of The Above’ option and see how many awards they take home

Why do I have a feeling Gladys is going to meddle, with the intention of engineering Brando’s placement with Carly and Jason, but will end up either driving Sasha away or causing her to lose her baby (whatever camera angles they could use to achieve that with Sofia Mattsson’s legit pregnancy)?

7 minutes ago, AbcNbc247 said:

As long as he takes a ride on my boat first

As a Brit, that’s turned into (at least) a double entendre.

Google ‘Cockney Rhyming Slang Boat’

1 hour ago, DramatistDreamer said:

 

Listen, I said this the last time Y&R let her walk. 

 

Loren Lott is beginning to find solid work with projects with real buzz. Morgan can absolutely do the same.

And good for her.

That remains one of the most ridiculous decisions made, and one that still annoys me greatly to this day.

9 hours ago, David_Vickers said:

 I hope to God that Mishael Morgan does NOT leave again.  IF she does, I predict Y&R recasts Amanda with Karla Mosley permanently. 

They probably have that in reserve, thinking they have that as leverage, or rather they have no sense of needing to keep her.

If they let her walk again, I don’t think they’ll get her back this time, neither will they deserve to. Also, if she wanted to stay in soaps, General Hospital has a better (if very bustling) canvas of actors and they seem to treat their black actors well. Personally, I think she’s talented and charismatic enough to do regular prime time. 
 

Also, something must be going on at Y&R, what with this and the rumoured contract issues with Hunter King and Michael Mealor. 

My guess is he’s being brought in as the ‘Dev’ role to play spoiler to Cam and Joss. Especially since Trina might be leaving? I’m sure I read that her talented portrayer is off to uni? 

39 minutes ago, AlexElizabeth said:

"How do I tell Nina I'm pregnant?" You don't have to, Sasha. Just go stand in front of her for a couple seconds and she'll figure it out. The drama with Gladys is so lame. Brando is sweet (and hot) but he's not much of a character.

I could have this completely wrong, but I wonder if the writers are trying to create a genuine question over Sasha’s motivation in connecting with Brando. 
 

The ‘clever’ writing being that she said what she said to Gladys, so it can be taken as Sasha just winding her up.

I’m going to jokingly suggest that the issue is less to do with Kelly Monaco and maybe more to do with Billy Miller.

Remember how much Amelia Heinle threw her toys out the pram when Billy Miller left Y&R and basically sandbagged David Tom?

On May 30th, I said this:

’With Tara, it’s almost a certainty she’ll end up a different character. They didn’t have Ashland warn Jack about her for no reason’ 

At this rate, any of us could write a more compelling, less predictable version of Y&R

… Well, maybe not me (because I got the potential scenario wrong ) but many on here could.

Well that was a bit of a thrill ride. As much as you can get on daytime. 
 

Could do with something to help me sleep later…. when’s Y&R on?

On 5/31/2021 at 11:20 PM, Liberty City said:

Hoping June 2021 brings the long-awaited news of a brand-new regime at The Young and the Restless.

At this rate, Godot will arrive before happens.

Plus, having just watched tomorrow’s episode, it’ll be ‘fun’ to play a game of ‘which one was sacrificed to make way’? Cryptic now, but I’ll make sense.

And finally, superficially, I’m nearly always taken aback by Imani’s beauty. Casting-wise, she and Hilamanda fit as siblings as well.

2 hours ago, Forever8 said:

I just wish we had a better actress playing Tara. She is so lifeless in the role and she doesn't seem the type that Kyle would sneak around and have an affair in the Hamptons neither. 

 

I'm probably in the minority but I would've preferred Sally and Summer being unlikely friends rather than rivals. I think they're trying to equate Summer being Phyllis when it comes to not having many female friends. Though this rivalry is not written consistently. 

 

 

I’d be curious to know what criteria they went for when they cast Elizabeth Leiner. I wonder if it is an ability to act terrified and meek with a view to shaking that off down the line, and settle on more confident, etc

Re: Summer and Sally. If Mal Young and then Josh Griffith hadn’t made the decision to have Summer employ some of Phyllis’ insecure and impulsive characteristics as recently as last year (essentially becoming her mini-me) this conflict with Sally may have worked if developed organically.

Hear me out… I think I remember a brief time when Summer was a mix of her mum and Nick when the occasion required. If that version of Summer had remained and Sally arrived, displaying her [Summer’s] mother’s naked ambition and ruthless scheming that she does, teasing a reaction out of her, that might have worked. As it could have had the subtext of Summer engaging in an organic (and new) battle with a version of her mother and being grown up enough to deal with it properly in a way she couldn’t with Phyllis when she was a teen.

Instead, we have the characteristics of one person spread across two people engaged in a rivalry with each other.

I pulled that out of my ear, so pardon me if it’s a little wonky 

Because whether by coincidence or by choice, Sally is almost an embodiment of a younger Phyllis:

red headed, tall, athletic, attractive (subjective to each, I acknowledge), the characteristics described above.

With Tara, it’s almost a certainty she’ll end up a different character. They didn’t have Ashland warn Jack about her for no reason.

At a guess, once Ashland is out of the picture, she’ll turn to Jack, thus making it awkward for Kyle and Summer (again ), especially if she ends up keeping Harrison. Phyllis’ protective instincts will kick in and this ‘new’ Tara will probably then go after Sally for the role she has played in all of this mess.

And not a second of it would move outside of ‘first gear’, writing, directing or production-wise.

35 minutes ago, Liberty City said:

Dying to start watching this soap. Wish a platform other than BritBox would pick it up.

You could find episodes on most video sharing/upload sites by typing the name of the show and the date of broadcast.

Sorry to be that guy, but with this (undoubtedly good) news, how long before Ken Corday suddenly decides the show needs a new lick of paint and Ron Carlivati is shown the door?

So, I watched today’s episode. Not appalling, not amazing, but for those yet to see it… Jordan and Portia had an (episode-long) exchange that touched on Cameron’s fate in the stand off, and expanded to other themes. All I kept thinking was ‘yeah, I can see this going down badly with some of the viewers’ for a variety of reasons.

It spills into another conversation as well. 

5 hours ago, Forever8 said:

A few years ago during the summer I was watching Guiding Light episodes circa 1991 for the first time. And the character of Roger Thorpe was the big bad of the show. However, all the roads didn't lead back to Roger like every road on this show for the most part leads back to Adam. This is why I wished he would've stayed dead after Justin Hartley left for This Is Us. 

Ah, Roger Thorpe. They don’t conceive characters as layered and complex as that anymore. And yes, I know Michael Zaslow was a huge part of that. Current soaps write shallow ‘types’ for what I think they feel is a dumber, less engaged viewer.

3 hours ago, wingwalker said:

I sure hope so. I don't see how the BBC can continue to ignore how much terrible shape the show is in. Both Jon Sen and Kate Oates need to go, but even just getting rid of Jon Sen would be a massive improvement. 

Given Kate Oates’ role and portfolio, she may be able to skate this. Jon Sen, I suspect, may need to look over his shoulder professionally.

Every show has a moment, a storyline, an episode, an axing that makes the viewers revolt to such an extent the senior executives take note, then take action. This appears to be that moment.

I suspect Jon Sen is not long for his position. Given everything that has happened on the show since the 35th anniversary, this moment seems to have caused the biggest backlash.

At this point, I wouldn’t be surprised if the producers and Wes Ramsey himself are just trolling everyone. They can’t be completely oblivious to a lot of the viewer pushback that isn’t based on the character construction, writing etc 

9 hours ago, Dylan said:

Why hopefuly? He brought Adam back. hes a good writer.

That’s an interfering frame of reference. May I ask you to expand of what (else) you have seen this go around under Josh Griffith that you like?

The general consensus here is that he's not got it right (including the writing for Adam) so I’m open to any perspectives that allow me to think about things more