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Same here. I really thought they had begun to die down but now it looks like Trump's people are just trying to sabotage each other before the hammer comes down.

This is why I'm done being told that I have to feel sorry for these people. Even when provided opportunity, they refuse to take it then they blame immigrants or black people for doing the work they don't want to do.

This is why whenever I see someone talking about Obama's speaking fees I want to punch them in the throat. He's going to do so much with his post-presidency.

I've passed out from overheating plus missing breakfast. That's fairly consistent with what I experienced and what I was told by other people. The problem is your vision goes before you lose consciousness and you're still functioning in some ways while your brain is shutting down. I managed to walk a couple of hundred feet before I finally fell out. I was almost at the top of a flight of stairs. But I agree that she needs to get to a doctor just to make sure. Even if she truly believes it was overheating, she might be wrong.

But it points to the Trump voter mindset. They aren't FOR anything. They like him because he pisses off the "libs" and he attacks and hurts the people they hate. All they wanted was to take the White House away from the black guy. That's why they don't care that he's an utter failure. He validates their ugliness, hate, and fear. They don't want anything concrete. It's not about economics or jobs. Obama presided over 75 months of job growth and they didn't care. They voted away their own health insurance and handed the government to Goldman Sachs because they don't want anything concrete. They just want to be told that the problems in their lives are someone else's fault. The man is utterly clueless.

That plus a lot of people, me included, wanted to believe that he was some kind of patriot throwing himself on a grenade. He's not. He's just another crusty bigot trying to erase the last 100 years of progress. I've learned my lesson. No one involved with this administration is anything other than a traitor.

I wouldn't be surprised if the way all this ends is with Donald stroking out. It would be most fitting for him to end up in a wheelchair watching his life and the lives of his enablers be torn apart by Mueller.

I knew that one would show up spouting Trump talking points. Next he'll pivot to the Tony Podesta "scandal." It's amazing to me to see all the Trumphumpers who really think this all ends with Hillary going down for Uranium One. This is why I say we have to find a way to shun these people. They are completely divorced from reality and utterly unreachable.

The Republican base has shown itself to be a threat to this country which is why we need to find a way to marginalize them. Unfortunately, people on the left really get off on trying to "reach" them because they see it as some kind of moral imperative. At this point Trump's voters need to be treated like asbestos. When you find asbestos in a building you don't try to remove it, you seal it off.

These folks have lost their damn minds. They have convinced themselves that she won. The Clinton Administration was in the 90s.

The Free Beacon funded the research and then abandoned it when it no longer served its purposes. (Think about that. The Republicans had information about Trump's ties to Russia and didn't care.) The Clinton campaign picked it up then the FBI picked it up and finally it landed with Mueller who, as we've seen tonight, is hard at work. The Trump trolls got played.

Exactly. They showed us who they are. They are irredeemable.

I believe Corker and McCain have purposely gone in on Trump as an attempt to distract him from Johnson. Especially McCain. Whatever my issues with him there's no way seeing a young pregnant Gold Star widow being attacked by Donny BoneSpurs didn't set him off.

This is an older article but it details exactly what's involved in tending to the bodies of the fallen. They take it as a sacred duty and frankly I'm ashamed that I didn't know the kind of care these families need and get. "In some cases, when injuries are too extensive, no reconstruction is attempted. Instead, the remains are wrapped in absorbent gauze and sealed in plastic; they are then tucked inside crisp white sheets, closed with safety pins, one inch off the crease, the head of every pin facing the same direction; a green blanket is wrapped around the entire cocoon, and a full uniform is pinned on top." http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/news/a6683/dover-air-force-base-funeral-process-102909/ The sad, horrible truth is that Sgt. Johnson's body was probably unrecognizable. He'd been dead in the humid heat for Lord only knows how long and that sight would've been her last memory of him.

Russia seems to be fueling separatist movements around the world including the insane Calexit initiative.

My real issue is the same one I have with antifa. People who don't want to think these things through are going to get innocent people hurt or killed. But again a lot of my issue is that a lot of these young protesters aren't trained in civil disobedience and aren't interested in learning. I underwent CD training in the 90s. The whole point of CD is to nonviolently break an unjust law then accept the punishment. A lot of these youngins haven't thought about what happens if/when they get arrested. Back in my day , we had to think through a whole list of questions and prep: Write the phone number for your bail contact on your arm in permanent marker because the cops will take your belongings. Do you have any health conditions where the police could withhold your medications? (asthma, diabetes, hypertension). What happens at your job if you get arrested? Are you prepared to have a police record? Decide whether or not you want to carry your ID or give a fake name. If you want to give a fake name decide on that now and get used to it. Stuff like that. I'm obviously devoted to the BLM cause, I just need more structure than the "organization" has or wants to have.

The tactics seemed increasingly self-defeating and there was very little interest in getting educated about civil disobedience. For example, during the RNC convention in Cleveland last year every group that wanted to protest march had to register for a parade permit. Every group, whether left or right leaning had to do it. Basically the city used that to try and schedule marches so that you could space out opposing groups (don't schedule the NRA to march right after the Sandy Hook Promise march). It was also a way to make sure that everyone knew the rules (no bottles, cans, umbrellas, weapons, etc..) The local BLM chapter simply decided they didn't want to do that and would show up to march whenever they damn well pleased. That made no sense to me and easily could've led to unnecessary harm. Also, I've grown to dislike the tactic of blocking roads even though I've done it. That's a form of protest that can go south really quickly. The moment an ambulance can't get through you've lost the moral high ground and the cause no longer matters. Then there's stuff like the BLM chapter in Toronto that threw smoke bombs during the moment of silence/remembrance at the PRIDE parade. I just found that horrific. It was like watching the Westboro Baptist Church protest a funeral. That was my final straw.

This election has forever changed how I see so-called "allies" on the left and not just the white ones. I've seen too much discussion from the Colin Kaepernicks of the world who would rather protest than vote. It's a big part of the reason I finally just gave up on BLM.

I'll be honest, I don't know what to make of Kelly's behavior. At first I just thought that he was one in a long line of white men who just let Trump neuter them (McConnell, Sessions, Ryan, Cruz, Cohn, Price, Rubio, etc...) but the more conversation I see from people with experience dealing with narcissists I'm not sure. The only way to manage them is to affirm their worldview. Just like the governor of Puerto Rico has had to flatter Donald just to get even the most basic help. I hope that one day we will learn that what Kelly did was the equivalent of throwing himself on a grenade because the alternative, that he went to bat for the man who used his child's death as a political football is unthinkable and shows just how pervasive and toxic white supremacy and toxic masculinity is even to the people who benefit from it. . Yep. Pure exhaustion. Sometimes I try to take a day or two to stay away from the news just for my own sanity. My blood pressure has been stuck at 20 points higher since the election.

Trump rally is garbage but we need to remember it's not just him. It's the people who support him. One day Donnie will be gone but his supporters will still be here desperately trying to drag this country back to the stone ages.

Yeah, I don't want to play into searching for the "perfect" victim but it's clear to me that McGowan has...issues. Of course, that's often what predators look for.

I don't really expect people who lean right to vote left but there is definitely a contingent that would just sit out that election. They may vote party line down the rest of the ticket and leave him blank. But honestly I don't see Donnie even being on the ballot in three years. Between his low ratings, his laziness, the Russia investigation, and his obviously failing health, I'm assuming Pence will be on the ticket. But to be clear, I don't think much about 2020 at all. Three years is a long time and our country is dangerously destabilized.

This is the guy that some people think will be in office for seven years.

The cruelty of our fellow Americans continues to amaze.

Exactly. This whole thing is class warfare.