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So Brandi sexually assaulted Caroline. Despicable and it’s about time Bravo calls it what it is.

I have always thought MacGraw's show is one of the trashiest things to ever be broadcast. He capitalized on really ugly dysfunction.

Great opening credits.

Rightly so. She has it coming. I have been waiting on all day to get through my work day to visit this thread and see all the brilliant responses here. Sure have. Robyn is a fraud and is not playing the game of reality TV. Spot on analysis on your part and on the part of Candiace. I wholeheartedly agree that I stand with Candiace. Robyn is monetizing this affair outside of the RH universe and that is a mortal sin. Robyn should be fired for this.

Louise had done an Alan Locher interview within the last year and had mentioned there was chatter about a return. Wonderful news if true.

She was 57 when she appeared on Falcon Crest and looked damn good. 95 is a great life.

The way I saw it, Karen swung for the fences in an attempt to get the “Karen is cheating” allegations out of everyone’s mouths instantly - and it worked. They instantly switched to talking about how delusional she is, which goes to show they just want to trash her, they don’t care how they do it.

Nothing will ever top Alden's The Takeover storyline from 1999. So many characters involved with consequences that lasted for years: That really is a crippling thing to deal with. However, when you watch old episodes from the 90s and early 00s it isn't that there were that many extra sets, but they were much larger and between Newman, Jabot, the Abbott house, Chancellor mansion, Victor's ranch, Crimson Lights, and Gina's restaurant, they could write an effective show. Jabot is the only business venue that 1) makes sense and 2) connects to the audience.

Amoral is the right word. Yes, Candiace really got Ashley with that statement. Truth hurts! I hope Karen annihilates them. And I hope Chris Basset gets justice!

It was totally preposterous but we loved her for it.

POTOMAC Honestly, [!@#$%^&*] Gizelle, Robyn, Ashley, and Charisse. This episode was outrageous as they all tag teamed Karen. What was really telling was how openly they were actually discussing the show when Charisse, Robyn, and Gizelle moaned and groaned about Charisse 'assembling this group of ladies' that Karen was not a part of. It was plain as day that Charisse is furious that she was the one who organized the cast, but it was Karen who became the breakout star of the show while Charisse got herself fired for being so cringe and boring. What the [!@#$%^&*] was with Charisse claiming Karen went to rehab? When? For what? As Karen said to Candiace, Charisse proved by her words that Karen's suspicions about her were right and that Charisse was simply waiting to try and lord her own 'friendship acts' over Karen. Robyn is such a liar about her pathetic relationship with Juan. Ashley tried to tee up another confrontation between Charisse and Karen at that lunch, but Karen was able to pivot so smoothly and transition Ashley to have discuss matters with Candiace. Jacqueline and Mia = implosion. Mia threw away her friendship without a second thought. I think Potomac is getting dangerously close to being too toxic and might need a cast refresh for next years if they are to avoid the fate of Salt Lake City this season where everyone hated each other.

Agreed. If they wrote out Kate/Lauren like that, after 27 years, I would find it in unspeakable bad taste and disrespect.

Very sad news - 75 is not very old these days and I am sorry to hear he struggled with dementia and then Covid-19. He played his scenes on Passions with a great sense of humour. I especially enjoyed his scenes with Kim Johnston Ulrich's Ivy.

I agree. Potomac is still doing it for me and I'm enjoying it. That said, Ashley is flopping this season and Mia is on the verge of needing to exit the show because she's so trashy. I am here for Karen annihilating the desperate hippopotamus though. One of the most epic flops in Bravo history. Like any good hustler, I think Erika is going to make a play for getting in with Sutton as her audience sugar mama. I feel like Dorit is going to get demoted to a Friend Of...Ditto Crystal.

Indeed. That is a long held opinion of mine, as well as many others in this thread. Rinna threw away her reputation for an 8 year run on RHOBH. That said, she is turning 60 this year and so she was able to basically spend her 50s in the Bravo/reality world when it is doubtful she would have secured anything near as lucrative in the acting world - Rinna has long been in that tough spot of being known for her looks and limited range, so her 50s would have been Siberia in Hollywood, so perhaps it was the right gamble to make. The mistake, from a career perspective, was letting her QVC apparel range go because that could have been a very lucrative second act once media ran its course. I will be interested to see how Rinna Beauty fares without a regular TV presence - her social media might be enough to sustain it.

Flawless wit.

HALLELUJAH!

Barbara Walters was an original. I fondly recall her last day on The View when every noteworthy female television journalist, including those on other networks, people she may have clashed with professionally, all came on stage and gave her a hug, one by one, each acknowledging that she had paved the way. And that is the indisputable truth about Barbara Walters - she did pave the way and she did shatter a glass ceiling. She got there by being tough, tenacious, and ambitious. She made her life happen.

Does/did Jill own Chancellor?

It's definitely a set that has elements of Brad's old house in it. And thank goodness for that - it was a beautiful set and consequently, Diane's hideout looks a helluva lot better than what we'd normally see in a new Y&R set. I tuned in as it's Christmas break and just like it is every time I dip into Y&R, the show feels like it's in a constant holding pattern. Aside from the Diane storyline, and the scenes between Tucker/Ashley and Ashley/Jack, the show feels incredibly stale.

Agreed - the shift in tone and timing was bizarre. It would have made far more sense if they'd had a few scenes in the saccharine Christmas episode where Thomas was alone and miserable, Brooke was bitterly chatting to Hope, and Eric was conflicted about what to do. That said, I liked today's scenes and thought Matthew Atkinson did a good job, especially at the end when he managed to well up with tears.

I think the episode, for John Aniston, was a good one to go out on. He had several zingers delivered in his trademark style. The memoriam at the end of the episode was lovingly done. Corday/DAYS clearly held him in high regard and I enjoyed that everyone who shared significant story with him over the years was acknowledged.

Dear God in Heaven...

Thank you! Whitney's routine is not landing and it's going to be a part of the implosion of the show along with Jen.

Did they do something else to the Chancellor mansion set aside from the horrible rotation, painted midnight blue, then back to yellow, with hideous mediocre furniture? Griffith by himself will be a disaster.