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LMAO!! (I shouldn't laugh so hard at that, but even the show's creators cop to it being little more than "Cheers" in an airport, lol.) I still can't keep it straight in my mind which DAYS hangout begat what, but was Wings the successor to Blondie's, which was, in turn, the successor to Shenanigans? Or were they all separate hangouts? And how does Sergio's Doug's Place By the Lake figure into all this?

I agree. SFT's final EP, David Lawrence, might have had a prior working relationship with P&G, as well as a minor track record of producing outside of daytime, but nothing in his resume suggests to me that he was a visionary. It's kind of like when CBS hired Cathy Abbi to produce the last several months of LOL. The only other notable job she'd held was as an associate producer at Y&R; and I think I've read somewhere, too, that the higher-ups knew she wasn't cut out for the EP gig, but hired her, because they needed someone to run LOL into the ground and give them an excuse to cancel it. (Lawrence also reminds me of that string of no-name EP's at LOVING who were there when it was clear that no one who was any good wanted anything to do with that show.) And I don't know whether I was the one who had suggested a Pamela K. Long/Douglas Marland team-up, @Soaplovers, but I'll gladly take credit for it, lol!

I think it needs to be dead in the water, if it isn't already. As much as I would love to see Erica Kane back on my TV screen, I don't trust everyone involved in this project to do right by Agnes Nixon's legacy.

For a minute, @soapfan770, I thought you were talking about the sitcom, "Wings," lol.

I support writing out LK/Kate, but only because it's clear no one at DAYS knows what to do with Kate except make her the town sex toy.

Wrong thread.

I think that's how most people become soap fans: by watching it as children or young adults with their relatives. Either that, or they get hooked while trying to sober up between keg parties at college.

I agree, @DramatistDreamer. I, too, chose not to watch, figuring I could catch Susan Lucci's speech later on YT (which I did). The days of the industry giving a damn about the soaps are long over.

This country is fucked if a reporter don't know who the hell Susan Lucci is.

You know the worm has turned when I'm sorry to see Krista Allen go.

More than that, DAYS doesn't have the budget anymore to gather everyone who IS on the canvas for the ceremony. The past several years, it's been just the Hayeses and whichever actors hadn't met their episode guarantees that week.

Ah, I got my storms mixed up! Thanks, @robbwolff!

Ah, but you're wrong. I do like Deidre. And Marlena. But I don't kid myself into thinking she is The Most Important Character In DAYS History.

Doug and Julie weren't "lifted out," because they weren't popular anymore. They were marginalized and then written out by a writing and production team who thought that youth was where it was at. And before you start talking about SSH being "hammy" and "ridiculous," let me remind you and everyone else of Dee's performance as Marlena running away from the disembodied head of Tom Horton.

Now I KNOW you're trolling. Who the hell brought the show to #1 in the ratings? Who is the only daytime actor (aside from her real-life husband) ever to make the cover of TIME magazine? Because, it sure as [!@#$%^&*] wasn't Deidre Hall.

Oh, well!

And if you believe in God, then you probably also believe that God created the creators of DAYS via the generations of ancestors who came before them. So, when you take a step back and look at the entire picture, you'll see that it was God who was ultimately responsible for the Bradys. (Whether He deserves praise for that, I'll leave up to y'all.)

But, Ted, Irna and the other guy created Alice and Tom, so....

They all owe their existence to Julie, since Don was brought on as a spoiler for her and Doug. No, wait! Actually, they owe their existence to Ted Corday, Irna Phillips and Allan Chase, because it was they who created Julie. Like sands through the hourglass, bitches!

Pat Falken Smith created the Bradys (and the DiMeras) to contrast with the Hortons and Andersons. Roman and Marlena were paired in order to create a spoiler for a potential Don/Marlena reunion (which, obviously, never happened). Just as Tony DiMera was introduced as Liz's ex-husband (er, still-husband, I guess?), and Vanessa DiMera was supposed to be a new love interest for David Banning. It all helped the new families become better established in Salem, but it's not the same as saying they were created FOR other characters.

This will be an unpopular opinion, for sure, but I think it's time DAYS retires the Horton tree trimming ceremony.

If you start quoting "Brown Penny," I'm outta here!

That isn't saying much.

Ron Carlivati is far too stupid to be the devil.

She ain't Lisa Rinna, but I'll take her back as Billie on DAYS.