Gray Bunny

Lamon Archey should've been included. Just sayin'....

RHUGT: How many episodes are there? I've only seen 7 episodes post, plus the WWHL episode with all the cast on zoom. Surely there's more? Unless I was hitting the wine too hard on episode 7, I don't remember a conclusion.

I haven't watched yet, but from what I see here, Ron you better never knock Eric Martsolf's "old" 50-year-old body again. I *hope* I look like that when I'm 50.

+1 . Lucas 100%

And a perfectly chosen screenshot it is. The epitome of the "womp womp" Debbie Downer sound effect.

Nuh-uh, the reveal of Stefano as her bio dad was February 1996 (in Aremid) and she didn't begin her slow decent into evilness until the baby swap story half-way through 2000.

LOL. Oh Kenny, I've missed your wit. +1 on that! lol

Yeah, that was very well done. The original Ice Queen knows how to maneuver her minions to do her bidding. I wonder what benzos Nicole was flying high on. She was definitely not all there. It was overall a great episode. I'm liking the groundwork they're laying out for this season's foes and alliances. The new women are kind of waffling, their heads spinning as the OC "vets" get their crazy on at the party. Damn, all that sushi gone to waste. I'd ask Heather for a to-go plate, but that's just me LOL.

I watched it. It was cute for what it was. Growing up, I watched Diff'rent Strokes in reruns and got into Facts of Life later. They really could've let Lisa Whelchel and Kim Fields play their own roles. Lisa looks amazing. And as for Mindy Cohn? Her recent work done to her face was certainly "fresh". Kinda hard to look at.

Side note: I know we're talking about DAYS circa '93-'97, but this similar story point always bugged me about Tony DiMera's re-entry into Salem in what, 2007? 08? after being held on an island (with island women to entertain him) for literally 20 years. Not only was his bumping into John/Marlena on the island totally casual (literally, "Sup guys! What are you doing here?"), but he immersed himself back into Salem society (and even slipped back into Andre's suits) in a blink of an eye with ZERO period of adjustment or a true catchup on what he's missed in the last 20 years. It was so weird. Anyhoo, back to the topic of mid-90's... As a fan of the SOD Awards from back in the day, they did a lil spoof on the "Rules to Dating A Man" using various soap clips (DAYS was used a lot) which is soooo cringeworthy to watch in this day and age. Their 5th and final rule was literally, "If all else fails, fake a suicide attempt," and they show B&B's Sheila jumping off a building and Sunset Beach's Annie jumping off a pier. Oy...

Agreed; Team Whitney/Heather. Yes, Jeannie is just there. So much real-life drama (instead of reel-life manufactured petty stuff) is hindering the ability for her to be integrated into this cast. I have to laugh at people trying to gain the acceptance of Mary. It'd be like watching Jill Zarin, Bethenny, and Luaan vying for the affections of Alex McCord. LOL. Some castmembers are just not cut out to be top dog of the group.

Yeah, the whole thing strikes me as odd, too. Like, there's this buildup of Nicole coming into Heather's house even though the two of them already had lunch together AND went on a "hike" (in full makeup) a couple days ago. Doesn't add up.

Oh yeah, you're right about the addition of Mike. That definitely helped keep the story going, especially after Sami was exposed and they needed a new direction for the Carrie/Austin aspect. In 1996, Jack/NuJenn/Peter wasn't bad, but by 1997, Peter was gone and Jack was stuck in prison for months, with only that dude Trent to talk to. Meanwhile, Nurse Lynn kept Laura drugged up to keep her memory from returning. Jack/Jenn were just stuck the first half of '97. Then when Mark Valley left, Steve Wilder took over, and NuJack/NuJenn were on the run.... oy. Just bad. Side Note: I remember the early years of my viewing so vividly, yet everything from the last 15 years is a blur, lol. Another Side Note: How many of us started watching DAYS in the mid-90's and consider Mark Valley to be "their" OG Jack?

Looking back, I wish I had started watching DAYS in 1993 instead of two years later. So much I missed out on in real time. It was the possession storyline that got me to tune in, but it was Bo & Hope (the newly returned Peter Reckell!) that made me fall in love with the show. I think in 1996 the show was firing on all cylinders still. But looking at the first half of 1997, you can see Reilly was stretching out Carrie/Austin/Sami and Marlena/John/Kristen to fill space in the winter and spring to have the big summer climaxes. As for Bo/Hope/Billie/Franco, they felt kinda half-assed, and the Jack/Jennifer storyline was literally suspended while Jack (Mark Valley) wallowed in prison. Also, though the possession storyline got people talking and watching, it wasn't until the Aremid storyline arc (my personal all-time favorite) that propelled DAYS to No. 2 in the ratings and they *stayed* at No. 2 until December of 1997. Speaking of the Fall of 1997, I would wager Reilly purposely sabotaged the show on his way out the door after he got to do his big Summer reveals (Kristen, then Sami).

I watched all through the bitter end of last season, but they certainly did not give much incentive to watching. Seeing last night's OC premiere gives me hopes they can turn NYC around with the right casting decisions and renewed focus. They need more than just a Dorinda return; they need an OG heavy hitter like Jill and/or Bethenny.

I'm usually pretty lukewarm about OC in general, but last night's premiere was GREAT! I am legit excited to see the next episode. Heather is a welcome breath of fresh air, and the real estate porn is orgasmic, lol. I've grown to like the Gina/Emily friendship; a solid bond between at least 2 women is essential for this show right now, since they're in their rebuilding phase. As for the newbies, I'm liking what I see so far of Noella. As for Jennifer, I wasn't quite sure she was the new castmember at first. I thought she would be the friend-of by the way she was introduced, so to have that other woman at the center of the Heather drama be the friend-of kind of threw me, especially since she was the one who introduced Noella to Heather. Anyhoo, I do agree there is still a "Classic RHOC" element missing (Tamra!) but overall this was a welcome surprise! Good thing I already had OC set as a series recording, because I totally forgot it was coming back, too.

In case you were wondering about the guy who appeared on Y&R today. Ernest Pierce.

At first glance, I thought Shannon was Vivian Vance.

Yeah, it's still enjoyable, but nothing stand-out. Wendy has a loooooong way to go to live up to Monique's binder. Speaking of exhausting, I'm kinda over Mary's kooky ass on SLC. She admits to being a Debbie Downer on the girls trip, and she was every bit the buzzkill. I dunno, she just gets triggered over the weirdest little things, and her tics and mannerisms are like Ramona Singer on speed. Speaking of speed, with all these real-life bombshells on SLC, it's like watching a modern day primetime soap (think: Revenge) where SO much is happening so soon that I fear they'll burn themselves out too early. Of course, I'm still enjoying the hell outta SLC, but I hope they don't run out of steam too early and have to rely on Bravo storylines (i.e. pantygate, puppygate, cookie lady, etc.) in future seasons.

That's been my thought too: DH is playing MarDevil like she's Hattie.

I love how they give Eileen Davidson the A-list storyline with the possession story and stick Stacy Haiduk with the C-list crap (unless they've written off Kristen again... hopefully)

Sadly, I have to agree. I’ve never been a huge fan of these spin-offs unless it’s a 3 episode special like Tamra’s or NeNe’s wedding because they can pack a bunch of stuff in a short time. But longer arcs like this stretch the “character” too thin. These types of shows will always work best as an ensemble. Hell, they spend so little time on the women’s individual lives anymore that even a 5-person cast isn’t enough.

Turning Nicole into an unhappy drunk while married to Lucas was the best thing to happen to the character. From there, Ari Zucker was able to bring fun and lightness to the role. B&B: I was always surprised at how long Amber Moore lasted. I think she was initially brought on as a waitress friend for Sheila to talk to when she was living in rural California. To keep her around and have her be Rick Forrester's babysitter (ha!) was an unexpected twist for me, as I thought for sure she'd fade away into oblivion as so many B&B characters tend to do.

The dynamic between the 4 franchises put together is definitely a treat to watch! I will go ahead and say it would've been nice for another woman from Beverly Hills to be there (lousy Rinna and her demands for more money). I echo everyone's sentiments for the most part and will add... - It's funny how the NYC women are the ones to let it all hang out (literally!) and get nekkid without a care in the world. - I did like the part of Cynthia's game where everyone admitted to their one insecurity (but I don't buy Ramona's body image issues. But, as peacemaker Cynthia said, if that's what she says she feels, we'll go with it). - Not to body shame anyone, but I will say that on this trip, with the outfits and camera angles, well... they definitely highlight the fact that almost everyone is over 50 [Kudos to LuAnn, though, who defies age. And of course, the young'un Melissa, where youth is still on her side]. - New friendship highlights so far (I've seen the first two episodes): LuAnn & Cynthia, and Kenya/Melissa's mutual girl crushes. - Yeah. Teresa hates her sister-in-law. Some things will never change. And on WWHL, she holds firm that Melissa was shady in how she was cast on RHONJ in the first place. Teresa will never let go on that one and I completely believe her. - Another fun WWHL highlight last night as they all played the game of "Who's an OG?," was a mutual YES to Jill Zarin and LVP (even Kyle had to cop to it), and a mutual NO to OC's Shannon. The game showcased not just original castmembers, but also longtime castmembers who have made notable marks on their respective shows.

She's coming in with a great attitude. I'm interested in seeing how it'll all play out. Even if they use her 4-5 times a week and then burn out of ideas after three months, in typical B&B fashion...