sheilaforever
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This gets said a lot and as I started watching Y&R with 1986 episodes it is definitely true that the character changed a lot as Dickson was playing a campy Jill to the hills at this time, yet with every 70s episode of Y&R you can see that her history was very different. And DIckson played it very different. And even in her last few months when Jill Foster Abbott got into business mode at Jabot with the men's line you could see dfifferent shades in her acting choices which Jess Walton continued.
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I'm really sketchy on the details but the main issue with Ryan and Vickie for most of the 90s was his involvement with Nina - and LITTLE PHILLIP who later became "Chance". If recall correctly evertime either Vickie or Ryan were facing marital issues, the other clinged on to his/her respective partner... The quadrangle lasted from 1994-1996 I'd say. This turned really weird when Nina ca. 1995 became Cole's research assistant (that's how she later became a writer) and through a mystery letter - where it was NEVER resolved who wrote it (it made no sense but was GREAT drama) - set a four-way-date at the Colonnade Room. The Cole/Victoria relationship lasted that long that I wouldn't say Ryan/Vickie were the ultimate endgame. It was moreso her first true love and after Cole was gone in 1999, of course they could only show her affection for Ryan.
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This cannot be stressed enough. Thank you so much for sharing these episodes!!! Before I will comment on anything in the primetime special, I just wondered whether there is a list of the 4 (?) of them out there, meaning when they are aired etc.??? Did they count as regular episodes numberwise or did they air in addition to the regular afternoon show and hence got no episode number? I know thats how DAYS did it. I don't know about CBS though as they sometimes aired some specials (Soapbreak or sth. like that?) during the daytime hours. Anyone able to shed some light on this?
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Technically they haven't worked together on B&B. Both have (in Alden's case had) lower-ranking positon than they had on Y&R. Ed Scott is hadnling the day-to-day taping business and overseeing remotes etc whereas Alden was co-head writer underneath Brad AND Michael Minnis and mostly pulling script-editing duties. And on B&B only Brad calls the shots: he's the writer, he's producer, it's his company who owns the show, so...
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Il Giardino The shelf with the plates - which they always put up - is actually recycled from that Mexican restaurant set I was talking earlier about BTW. B&B has always done a great job at recycling sets. The first production designer Sy Tomashoff really learned his craft at Dark Shadows to make great looking sets, yet operate on a tight budget and hence reuse as much as possible.
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I think it was not used past 1992/1993 - as soon as they had "Pierre's" and later that Mexican locarna. By 1994 there was "Mannequins" which lasted till around 2000. Then they briefly tried another Latino place during the Tony/Kristen story, LAs Olas (2001-2003). The original Bikini Bar was around from 1992-1996 when Sly torched it up. They brought it back as the Bikini Beach Bar in 2004 (?). Ther also was The Lair (2000-2001) where Deacon was manager at and briefly Ozzy in 2003.
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Wasn't Amy in one of YOUR prevous uploads or linked by someone else in this thread ealier??? Thought we already discussed her having a brief comeback. My guess is that Williams indeed got the GH contract and left for goo, so that Y&R went ahead with casting the Barber sisters. PS: for the sake of looking greedy, could you please reupload those 3 or 4 episodes you had on your last shut down YouTube channel??? I totally missed them which is a shame. Keep the uploads coming; this is muc appreciated :-)
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Thanks for the intel! You're definitely right about Bill Bell single handedly writing this episode. He had not even met Kay Alden around that time, meaning he wrote this episode completly by himself alongside DAYS where he still was headwriter for 1 1/2 + years... But this also proves that despite being very exhausting to write a show alone or with one or two people alongside the road, you can also deliver your idea much more precisely onscreen than today. That's probably one of the perks of those David E. Kelley-shows who is the only one still following this formula. Anyone bother to type up a cast list for this episode? :-) So who played Therese the maid and Hazel???
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Add me to the choir: this is unbelievably awesome. never in a million years did I expect this to see... Usually I dont care much for 70s Y&R as the characters I know and care for did not start until 1980... but this is so different: innocent JILL FOSTER and a boozed up KAY CHANCELLOR. Perfect! And Jeanne Cooper was VERY good as the lifeless, desperate, stuck- up alcoholic b*tch. The scenes were pretty long, yet there was A LOT of movement and many characters. This is just great storytelling; if done with an effort I truly think it COULD work today. The realism (actual real life incorporated in the stories!? - OMG!!!) seems to be totally gone from TV, daytime and primetime. No one wants to see this anymore, it seems. Even all those genre shows with their dark tones (e.g,. Breaking Bad) all seem unattached from the present, IMO. The last show which felt like it was truly connected to real life was WEST WING. But I digress and back onto this gem of Y&R. The sets were TINY. But you cann tell the approach: they all look like theatre sets and taht's also were stuff like the peeling of oranges derives from. Plus the lighting is very stage-like. I must say it felt terribly overlit and the camera work has improved a lot in later years but it holds up very well over all. Oh; Julianna McCarthy is VERY old-school theatre as well. So very real. That Greg Foster though (whats his name?) screamed romance novel cover with that drwamy look and that hairdo and I can only dread the thought of the other younger actors at that time in action. I didn't like that Phillip Chancellor II BTW. I only know Donnelly Rhodes from the flashbacks they always show and he always looked much more debonair and patriarchic fitting for the part whereas this Phillip looked like a mexican gigolo of Kays... Back to the writing: I wasn't sold on the "talking thoughts" of nearly every single character in this episode but then I wondered if the self-monologues which were very common in the 80s and 90s were much better. The intent is clearly to present us the characters thoughts. I'd say it worked best and most organic with the minor character as Esther, Miguel and Marissa et al. as more or less stiff sounding boards for certain characters but this could be personal taste. EDIT: considering ths is #205 and life-on-tape I think it either aired just one day later or so; but definitely by the last week of January 1974... Finally: THANKS FOR SHARING this and BLESSINGS TO THE UPLOADER! I can no longer comment on YouTube as I don't want a google+ account but this is greatly appreciated.
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Interesting. I felt exactly the same. The acting was much stronger on the Colbys, maybe that's why I liked it better.
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