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All the Steffy/Hope/Finn stuff was FF for me. I watched the Katie/Poppy scenes. Poor Heather Thom. She deserves better. First, of all, Poppy is right. Katie, this ain't your home anymore! This show skips so many story beats that things always fall flat. MAYBE...this would have worked if we saw Katie was unhappy in her "relationship" with Carter that we never see. MAYBE if she also had some sort of reason to distrust Poppy. MAYBE if she had somewhat reconnected with Bill lately. But, NOPE.

IMO, too, KKL is TOTALLY being wasted. She's capable of so much more. I think ONE of things that's missing is that she needs a true antagonist which in my mind is a "younger Brooke" who sets her sights on RJ, sort of the relationship that Brooke had with Stephanie. RJ and Luna are on a one-way ticket to Snoozetown. We need a younger, scheming social climber trying to make her way the top and trying to get Luna out of the way. Brooke would recognize "herself" in the young woman and work to keep this upstart out of her son's life. And, IMO, Brooke is so much more interesting without Ridge. I think she even worked better with Bill back in the day. I'd LOVE to see her in a real relationship with a much younger man. They had the potential there with her and Hollis...but as we know, B&B loves to kill any potential! I'm still pissed that the show killed what could have been an interesting triangle between RJ/Luna/Zende and creating a true rivalry between RJ and Zende. Now, they've basically ruined the Zende character.

I wonder why the character has never really worked. Writing? The actresses who have played her? But, she always seemed like more of an afterthought which is really sad since she's Ashley's only child. Even the relationship with Devon, there's just no real chemistry, nothing. Of course, besides Hillary, Devon has never had a viable love interest. And, now Dominic has the most convoluted backstory ever on his birth...and that's saying a lot for a soap character.

It's bizarre that NO ONE has bothered to tell Abby any of this. This shows what a non-character Abby has become. But, then none of the Newmans told her about the Jordan stuff, either...LOL.

Or it will end up being like that box that Katherine left Jill...nothing really becomes of it.

Just say with is Luna's father at this point, and why is Li so obsessed over it? Again, people just repeat the same lines...day after day. I wonder what the actors think at this point. I'm sure many are thankful to have steady employment, but even they have to realize what crap the writing has been. They have to repeat these lines about toes, mints, and staplers!

I don't know why daytime is so adverse to bringing in flesh blood at this point when it comes to writers. We need fresh perspectives!

I do wonder if Sonny is really a character the core audience cares that much about at this point...an aging mobster? He's just kind of on repeat when it comes to his stories.

Sheila is so overplayed at this point, too. They should have really killed her IMO and then brought on the daughter she had with Massimo. A character who could stir things up with a clean slate. Right now, the show is missing that type of character. Everyone just walks around like robots repeating the same lines over and over.

I'm soooo tired of "Who's Luna's father?"

I hope it's long-term. I checked out of DAYS about a year ago after watching for many, many years. The show just became overrun with Dimeras and the over the top, sci-fi stuff (all that mask wearing!) finally turned me off for good. Plus, the Hortons basically disappeared.

Even though the ages were realllllllly off, I enjoyed her take on Minx.

Such a shame because when this show was good, it was REALLY good.

And, I wonder what the process and cost would be to replacing the background music.

I tuned in today for the first time in a few weeks. Why did I do this to myself? But, anyway... So, Luna has the world's worst luck apparently. Not only will she never ever eat a "mint" again, but everybody used protection and it looks like she STILL got pregnant??? I know why they don't because of their viewership, but it feels so outdated that no one mentions that IF Luna is pregnant, she can have it terminated. She doesn't have to become a mother. This isn't 1958.

Watching the early episodes which I may have seen, but I was too young to remember most of it. M(B)R was soooooo green on SB. She must have take more acting lessons, classes before heading to DAYS. I actually found the guy who played Danny to be kind of entertaining, and he seemed to have a knack for playing the comedy parts. I think when Santana #1 and Rueben disappeared they sort of gave up on the Danny character, too. In an early episode, Rueben has a conversation with Cruz and mentions that he and Rosa had two other daughters. I think one may have been named Gabriela, but they were never mentioned again.

I can't believe that this show is still NOT available for streaming. It feels like everything, the most obscure old TV shows, are available for streaming but not KNOTS. Does anyone have any info on why?

I thought the SAME EXACT THING at the time. That story could have been amazing. It should have played out in beats over a year with Justin eventually taking over the company AND marrying Katie while Bill sat in jail. Then, once Bill got out of jail, the fireworks would have been fantastic. Instead, it all got wrapped up in one episode, and we never saw Justin again. B&B just can not write for black characters long-term (or any sort of minority). They really had the chance at something with the Avants and let it disappear. I think the early B&B years with Bill Bell writing wasn't the most earth shattering, but I agree it was well-written solid soap. A bit slow, of course, but the 30 minute format worked well with that at the time. It's hard to top Sally Spectra and her introduction which really made the show click IMO. Early Brooke/Stephanie as was Caroline. If only the show now was a fraction of that well-written. As someone mentioned Lumina on AW...HORRIBLE. Remember Amanda and the secret garden? I assume they got a mandate to make the show more DAYS like, but that was never what AW was meant to be. The show shined when it focused on friendships, IMO. But, I'm not sure anything can top Erica's "unabortion" on AMC. Who the hell approved that????

I started watching as kid when Lau played Jamie, so I didn't have any reference for the actors before him. But, it always seemed that they didn't quite know what to do with the character. Russell Todd's version, even though he was quite handsome, never really took, either. Just reading about the history of the show, IMO, TPTB aged Jamie way too quickly, too, and it prematurely aged the character of Rachel.

I wonder what the point is to being "secretly recurring" especially in a non-legacy character like Elena.

Not that they'd ever let the show get this complex, but, I've always thought B&B had the potential to explore the Upstairs/Downstairs aspect with Forrester Creations. You'd have all the execs and creatives "upstairs" and all the lower-income, not so glamourous underlings in the basement where Thorne once worked. Of course, there would be the classic character trying to claw their way up. Sigh. But, instead we just get constant conversations about mints, toes, and dialogue that goes in circles and has an amount of depth that even my betta fish could follow the show.

ITA...for example, on Y&R, almost all the characters are already super rich and successful. There's not the class conflict or the person clawing their way up to provide conflict. Not to mention, it's hard to believe people are billionaires when their home is only about ten feet wide...cough...the Newmans..cough.

How many of Steffy's 20 appearances were just her repeating the same dialogue about how Sheila is "dead" and they "don't have to worry about her anymore." How is Paris possibly still on contract???

Between a doctor not taking someone who has been chained to a wall for days to the hospital to women acting like Liam is some gift from the Gods again... I think I'm done. I just can't even hate watch the show anymore.

Me, either. Great to see them get a stand alone!